old thread, was:Rain this morning, slight risk of icy patches

There is a growing likelihood that we will have some snowfall Sunday night, and that there could be an inch or two (more in Newstead) on the ground for the commute Monday morning.

There is also a chance that there could be some icing in the overnight hours and again in the morning as the rain turns to snow and back again. Do not expect this to be the type of event that brings down trees, just a coating on the ground that might make driving more difficult and slow the trains.

The NWS does not expect significant accumulations here but north and west could see several inches of snow and also some ice on the ground.



spontaneous said:

Who doesn't love icing.

If I buy a container of Duncan Hines icing and eat the whole thing with a spoon today, I blame you. grin


Current NWS forecast has a chance of snow showers Sunday afternoon, snow Sunday evening changing over to rain very early Sunday morning, with minimal effect on the Monday morning commute.


What is the probable impact if any on the holiday celebration at the Gazebo tomorrow afternoon?



joan_crystal said:

What is the probable impact if any on the holiday celebration at the Gazebo tomorrow afternoon?

What time it the gazebo thing? I forgot to write that one down. I'm planning on taking the kids to the gingerbread house contest at Durand Hedden and want to know if we'll have time to do both.

And to keep this weather related, if you don't already have salt on hand you'd better stock up now. Even if you end up not needing it this weekend, you'll still end up needing it sooner or later. To quote that show that I've never actually watched... "Winter is coming."



spontaneous said:



joan_crystal said:

What is the probable impact if any on the holiday celebration at the Gazebo tomorrow afternoon?

What time it the gazebo thing? I forgot to write that one down. I'm planning on taking the kids to the gingerbread house contest at Durand Hedden and want to know if we'll have time to do both.

And to keep this weather related, if you don't already have salt on hand you'd better stock up now. Even if you end up not needing it this weekend, you'll still end up needing it sooner or later. To quote that show that I've never actually watched... "Winter is coming."

3:00 pm.


Forecast on track, in a good way.

Snow showers likely tomorrow afternoon (should make the gazebo event pretty). Then snow possible in the evening, changing to rain overnight. Rain Monday. The worst of it, during the changeover, will be predawn and not likely to effect Monday's commute.


So yeah, it actually is snowing, but a mid-level layer of dry air is keeping the snow from hitting the ground. I'm sure you are very disappointed.



max_weisenfeld said:

So yeah, it actually is snowing, but a mid-level layer of dry air is keeping the snow from hitting the ground. I'm sure you are very disappointed.

I am beseeching the mid level gods to keep up the good work


I saw some flakes!!!


It's hitting the ground in the village right now


It's sticking on grassy areas by me.


There was a lot more snow in the res than in downtown SO.


So, winter is upon us and two things we know that also come along now are holidays and more friendly occasions for alcohol. Well, alcohol doesn’t need a season but I mention it here because of snow. Drinking alcohol for enjoyment isn’t a bad thing. It typically feels nice, just like a light dusting of snow can make everything really pretty. All those pretty cards with snowy scenes are kinda like “a nice buzz” or “just a little tipsy” but there’s a limit to all that. We all know we should be careful no matter who you are, brain injury or not, and yet we all have stories about both being taken by surprise by too much alcohol or sliding on the road when you didn’t think conditions were all that bad.

Unless you have lived all your life in a cave you’ve heard typical warnings about drinking and driving before. What I wanted to do here was to draw a parallel that might help you better appreciate these things and avoid overlooking the risks that come all dressed up in pleasant feelings. Snow falls on everything when it comes down. The same is true for alcohol. Unlike most other drugs that have a specific target in the body, like a blood pressure medicine that blocks adrenalin and noradrenalin receptors and slows the heart, alcohol gets into your system and is able to go pretty much everywhere at once. It starts gradually (unless of course you’re slamming shots of Jack Daniels on an empty stomach) and just like when it starts snowing, it's sorta nice. Except for those who hate snow no matter how it arrives, that early stuff coming down and putting a frost on the lawn and the trees is not just pretty, it probably isn’t taken seriously and we tend to just go on with our business. Unless we’ve been warned about “the BIG one” coming our way up the coast it doesn’t seem like a big deal.

Can you see how you might think about having a glass of wine or two at a dinner party in the same way? “It’s only one” or “I had some food so there’s no problem”, etc. Some things like the robust main roads aren’t bothered at all by a little snow that doesn't stick right away. Your neighborhood streets and sidewalks? The snow begins to stick there soon after it is sticking on the lawn. Alcohol’s effect has a similar pattern on your nervous system. The parts of it running on highly exposed and sensitive neurons, like those exerting your social inhibitions, are affected much sooner than things run by more robust and myelinated neurons. Those handle your muscular movements and thus your coordination or ability to touch your nose on the first try with your eyes closed in front of that police officer.

A picturesque dusting of snow deceives you when you've been around for some of those heavy dumps of snow. "Eh, it's nothing. I grew up and learned to drive where it really snows..." or "I got All-Wheel Drive..." Your past experience fools you into believing that illusion of control. Similarly the things that are taken out first by alcohol are the ones that are supposed to help you recognize that you’re working more than just a nice little buzz.

I'm considering submitting some of this to the newsletter at the rehab place. Everyone there has some form of brain injury and yes, that makes us all the more susceptible to the effects of alcohol. Including the tendency to miss the fact that it could be hitting you harder than you think. Anyway, it will take a fair bit of editing but while I'm thinking about this stuff, instead of paying attention to the Jets and thinking of what they can get with their coming high draft picks, I thought I'd post it on this little thread about our gentle reintroduction to winter snow. If you’re going to have a drink of whatever kind definitely eat some food with it and have someone you trust looking out for you.

Some of you are all up in the weather technology and know that side. Some of you are well versed about healthcare and casual recreational pharmacology. Some know all about both. Maybe this analogy will help make more people less susceptible to both.

Be safe everyone and enjoy the snow. Do that Norwegian stuff that's making the rounds or something.


Thank you, bikefixed. Well said. I will be sending this to the under 25 y/o driver in my house hold.



finnegan said:

Thank you, bikefixed. Well said. I will be sending this to the under 25 y/o driver in my house hold.

Oh no! You better do it in the morning. I wouldn't want to put him to sleep.



bikefixed said:



finnegan said:

Thank you, bikefixed. Well said. I will be sending this to the under 25 y/o driver in my house hold.

Oh no! You better do it in the morning. I wouldn't want to put him to sleep.

Oh, stop. grin

What you wrote is valuable.


Temps are a bit colder than forecast, therr may be the occational ice patch right now, especially on higher elevations such as Newstead.

Otherwise, rain this morning with temps rising into the 40s.

Have a great week!


Max, is this an accurate forecast, including the weekend warming up to the 40s? Will there be any accumulation of snow IYMEO (In Your Most Expert Opinion)?





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