Paul can't stop talking about Russiagate

Please continue the conversation here:

From Paul::

jamie said:

paulsurovell said:

Believe what's in the Mueller report -- No evidence of collusion, No evidence of Russian interference.

Sanders and Warren are in agreement on the Mueller report and believe Russia meddled - many members of congress are using it to begin an impeachment inquiry. There's is a lot of obstruction and many related indictments.

(a) Mueller never presented any evidence for the hacking allegation and

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/07/05/crowdstrikeout_muellers_own_report_undercuts_its_core_russia-meddling_claims.html

(b) Mueller admitted that he never alleged that the Russian government was behind the IRA.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.193580/gov.uscourts.dcd.193580.144.0_1.pdf

And the last response from Paul:

ml1 said:

paulsurovell said:

I agree with this except I wouldn't call the leaker(s) anti-DNC, I'd call him/her a whistleblower on DNC bias against Bernie Sanders.

Of course the notion that it was an inside job is unsupported and fairly preposterous.

Only preposterous to those who have not considered the views of dissenters, who include former intelligence analysts, Russian experts and two witnesses who know the identity of the leaker: Julian Assange and his associate Craig Murray, former British ambassador to Uzbekistan, who wrote:

https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/12/cias-absence-conviction/

Now both Julian Assange and I have stated definitively the leak does not
come from Russia. Do we credibly have access? Yes, very obviously.
Very, very few people can be said to definitely have access to the
source of the leak. The people saying it is not Russia are those who do
have access. After access, you consider truthfulness.
Do Julian Assange and I have a reputation for truthfulness? Well in 10
years not one of the tens of thousands of documents WikiLeaks has
released has had its authenticity successfully challenged. As for me, I
have a reputation for inconvenient truth telling.

Neither Murray nor Assange was interviewed by Mueller.

This is like a doctored Soviet photo where part is covered up. Jamie makes it appear that I initiated this exchange, but actually I was responding to @drummerboy "who can't stop talking about Russiagate"

paulsurovell said:

nohero said:

drummerboy said:

uh oh, are you going to start posting clips of Maxine Waters and James Nance again?

You know that's next.

When the "don't believe the media about Epstein's alleged 'suicide' " folks combine that with "and don't believe what's in the Mueller report", that's a sign to not take them seriously.

Believe what's in the Mueller report -- No evidence of collusion, No evidence of Russian interference.

jamie said:

Please continue the conversation here:

From Paul::

jamie said:

paulsurovell said:

Believe what's in the Mueller report -- No evidence of collusion, No evidence of Russian interference.

Sanders and Warren are in agreement on the Mueller report and believe Russia meddled - many members of congress are using it to begin an impeachment inquiry. There's is a lot of obstruction and many related indictments.

(a) Mueller never presented any evidence for the hacking allegation and

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/07/05/crowdstrikeout_muellers_own_report_undercuts_its_core_russia-meddling_claims.html

(b) Mueller admitted that he never alleged that the Russian government was behind the IRA.

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.193580/gov.uscourts.dcd.193580.144.0_1.pdf

nohero said:

jamie said:

Paul - why do you believe what Craig Murray has to say? Why doesn't he and Assange just reveal the source of the leaker with proof? Or have they already?

They just want to keep dangling the Seth Rich theory while they and the people touting them pretend to "deny" that's what they're doing. It's disgusting, and too many people give them a pass on that garbage.

Paul's reply:

Look who can't stop talking about Russiagate.

Craig Murray has never suggested that Seth Murray was the leaker. Nor have I.

Again - for paul - why do you believe Craig Murray?  Why won't he reveal the source?  Who was the leaker?  Who do you believe it was?

GOD this is brutal.

Jamie, please keep this thread open.   Janine might show up.

sbenois said:

Jamie, please keep this thread open.   Janine might show up.

 Wow that would be great. We could talk about her article on Israeli war crimes against unarmed protesters in Gaza and the extreme suffering of the people especially children caused by the blockade.

And then Big Nasty would slither away.

Gallopin!

jamie said:

Again - for paul - why do you believe Craig Murray?  Why won't he reveal the source?  Who was the leaker?  Who do you believe it was?

 Yes. Do you? If not, why not?

Publications don't reveal sources.

I don't have a clue who it was, but I know that Craig and Julian say it was a leak not a hack and that it wasn't the Russian government, and no one -- not even Mueller -- has presented any evidence that it was the Russian government.

Why do you think Mueller didn't interview either Craig or Julian?

paulsurovell said:

Why do you think Mueller didn't interview either Craig or Julian?

And they would have told Mueller on record who the leak was?  If not - why bother questioning them?

Craig said that Julian would be very willing to give Mueller evidence.  Why not just hand over what he has?  Why the need for Mueller to go after them?  Just plain weird - did they need the drama and media attention of Mueller going after them - I don't get it.  Just plain dumb.