The Rose Garden and White House happenings: the voters were listening
An awful lot of white Republicans are OUTRAGED at what Obama said about some African American men.
mtierney said:
@drummerboy…repetition of and using bullets and and boldface to focus on the “enemy’s” message is somewhat akin to shooting yourself in the foot, IMHO.
I'm seriously starting to worry about you. This response is completely nonsensical.
ml1 said:
mtierney said:
@drummerboy…repetition of and using bullets and and boldface to focus on the “enemy’s” message is somewhat akin to shooting yourself in the foot, IMHO.
I'm seriously starting to worry about you. This response is completely nonsensical.
How long can one defend today's GOP and make any kind of sense?
nohero said:
Not from the WSJ ...
and the guys in the strip clubs who believe the girl is in love with them…
Maybe there's a pro-Trump "cartoon" that can respond to criticism of this garbage -
Trump: "You cannot get into a hospital, by the way. Because the migrants have all the beds. You cannot get into a hospital. You cannot get your kids into a school because there are migrants there that don't even speak the language ... they're getting precedent over your children" pic.twitter.com/GamVQqtC66
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) October 12, 2024
Have you read about this? My guess is that no one in MOLand did…safe bet is that you already learned about the Vogue online cover, though.
“Then there’s Donald Trump, who could easily insert himself into the hurricane narrative in ways Harris cannot counter. Trump, for instance, offered free lodging in his South Florida hotels to hundreds of linemen; Harris can’t exactly dole out invites to the White House.
“Trump’s generosity may be downplayed by the mainstream media, but no matter. His allies will eagerly spread these “caring” messages across social media, reaching tens of millions of voters while Team Harris can do little more than push out cloying cover stories in Vogue.”
mtierney said:
Have you read about this? My guess is that no one in MOLand did…safe bet is that you already learned about the Vogue online cover, though.
“Then there’s Donald Trump, who could easily insert himself into the hurricane narrative in ways Harris cannot counter. Trump, for instance, offered free lodging in his South Florida hotels to hundreds of linemen; Harris can’t exactly dole out invites to the White House.
“Trump’s generosity may be downplayed by the mainstream media, but no matter. His allies will eagerly spread these “caring” messages across social media, reaching tens of millions of voters while Team Harris can do little more than push out cloying cover stories in Vogue.”
regardless, this does not, in any way, counteract his utterly destructive lying about FEMA. he's still a piece of sh!t. far worse than that, of course. He's probably caused people to die.
Desperate man says hurricane-hit father-in-law refusing FEMA help after falling for Trump lie
mtierney said:
Not a cartoon, but it will do for now…
There are a couple of names of authors of those articles who likely support Trump's anti-immigrant hate speech that you didn't have a response to.
[Edited to add]
Trump’s closing message is a full blown hate campaign against black and brown people. Historians will look back in astonishment that this terrifying reality wasn’t the subject of wall to wall coverage and commentary in weeks leading up to this election. He’s not hiding anything.
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) October 12, 2024
these three new Trump scandals have been discovered in the last 3 days
- he gave covid testing machines to Putin while we had a dire shortage of them. People undoubtedly died because of this. (these machines are not the pre-packaged tests that we use at home)
- we found out that Trump killed the FBI investigation of Brett Kavanaugh for sexual misconduct
- Trump is not cooperating with the presidential transition rules. even worse behavior than 2020, when he actively blocked Biden's transition, which was probably the most under-reported political story of the 21st century. This is not a trivial thing.
3 days.
What will Kamala do, if elected, about California’s citizens rejecting her liberal laws which gave the bad guys rights to plunder? Today’s WSJ….
California’s Law and Order Revolt
Voters may oust Los Angeles District Attorney George Gascon and toughen the state’s drug and shoplifting laws.
By The Editorial BoardFollow
Oct. 11, 2024 at 6:11 pm ET
A decade ago California launched a not-so-grand experiment in progressive criminal justice. The ugly results since are now fueling a voter backlash, and support is growing for a course correction on the Nov. 5 ballot.
For better but often worse, California’s direct democracy system enables voters to change state law. In 2014 voters approved a George Soros-backed initiative, Prop. 47, that made drug possession and theft of less than $950 misdemeanors. Advocates including Gov. Gavin Newsom said this would save money for taxpayers.
The social costs have far exceeded any savings. Prosecutors had been able to leverage jail time to compel drug addicts into treatment. No more. As a result, vagrancy, open-air drug use and mental illness have proliferated. Organized crime rings plunder stores and freight trains with impunity. On Oct. 4, two dozen people ransacked a Nordstrom store west of Los Angeles that had been looted by another crew of masked thieves in August 2023. Violent crime has surged by some 35% since 2014—about four times as much as nationwide.
Enter Prop. 36, a Nov. 5 initiative that would restore penalties as a criminal deterrent and rehabilitation inducement. Shoplifters with two or more past theft convictions could be charged with felonies. Sentences would also be enhanced for organized crime. Drug traffickers would have to serve time in state prison rather than county jail.
The initiative would also let prosecutors charge people found possessing illegal drugs with a “treatment-mandated felony” if they have two or more past convictions for drug crimes. Those who complete treatment would have their charges dismissed.
A UC Berkeley Institute of Governmental Studies poll last week showed voters favor Prop. 36 by a three-to-one margin, with support strongest among Latinos. This explains why its progressive opponents, including Mr. Newsom and his union allies, are misrepresenting the initiative as a revival of “the war on drugs.”
Why do they oppose locking up drug traffickers and rehabbing addicts? The teachers unions say spending on incarceration and treatment will reduce funding for schools, never mind the costs to society from crime and addiction. As Kamala Harris acknowledged when she was San Francisco District Attorney two decades ago, there is “a direct connection between drug sales and violent crime.”
Early on Sept. 25, a man hijacked a Los Angeles public bus, killed a passenger and held the driver at gunpoint until he was stopped by a SWAT team. The hijacker had two drug trafficking convictions and previously had been arrested for several violent offenses that weren’t prosecuted. He was last arrested in 2020 on suspicion of drug sales.
Los Angeles DA George Gascon is throwing the book at the hijacker, but his relaxed enforcement for four years has fueled such mayhem. One of his first acts after winning election in 2020 was to direct his deputies not to prosecute such crimes as disturbing the peace, resisting arrest and making criminal threats. He also moved away from using cash bail.
Violent crime on Los Angeles’s mass transit has increased by a third and 8.5% overall in the county since before the pandemic. Union Pacific in 2022 blamed a spike in cargo thefts on Mr. Gascon’s catch-and-release policies for thieves.
By the way, Ms. Harris endorsed Mr. Gascon in 2020, saying he would provide “real justice for every Angeleno.” Voters are revolting against that “real justice.” Mr. Gascon trails his opponent Nathan Hochman, a former assistant Attorney General under George W. Bush, by 30 points in a UC Berkeley Institute of Governmental Studies poll this week.
Mr. Gascon has tried to tie Mr. Hochman, a registered independent, to Donald Trump. The DA in a recent debate compared Mr. Hochman’s promise to prosecute lawlessness to Mr. Trump saying that Haitians are eating pets. The attack-line makes as little sense as Mr. Gascon’s policies. In any case, Mr. Hochman says he didn’t vote for Mr. Trump in 2016 or 2020.
Further north, San Francisco Mayor London Breed is also facing a voter revolt as she campaigns for re-election. She was elected in 2020 on a promise of restoring competence in City Hall but has failed. She’s running neck and neck in a crowded field with Daniel Lurie, a Levi Strauss heir, and former city supervisor Mark Farrell.
Progressives and government unions that rule San Francisco perceive Mr. Farrell as the bigger threat since he is campaigning for stepped-up law enforcement and government accountability. He has drawn support from investors and techies frustrated with Ms. Breed’s management and tired of stepping over human feces and drug needles.
Californians have a high tolerance for disorder, but even they may have had enough.
poster’s note: From this link “stepped up law enforcement?” Egads, the end of trial and error — mostly error — in California may be coming!
I love it when an editorial opens up with a string of lies.
It's so refreshing.
They even mentioned George Soros! That's a twofer.
ooh look. facts!
While California’s $950 felony threshold for shoplifting has been held
up as an example of leniency in a famously liberal state, it is actually
the 10th strictest in the nation. States such as Republican-led Texas,
Alabama and Mississippi allow even higher levels of theft before a
felony is triggered.
In NJ, more than $200 of merchandise shoplifted is a fourth degree crime (IOW, a felony).
Link1: https://www.lslawyers.com/n-j-s-a-2c-20-11-shoplifting.html#:~:text=Shoplifting%20constitutes%20a%20crime%20of%20the%20fourth%20degree%20under%20subsection,merchandise%20is%20less%20than%20%24200.
In Florida it’s a misdemeanor up to $750…New Jersey is actually tougher on shoplifting… that’s the reality
RealityForAll said:
In NJ, more than $200 of merchandise shoplifter is a fourth degree crime (IOW, a felony).
Link1:
Link2:
point?
drummerboy said:
RealityForAll said:
In NJ, more than $200 of merchandise shoplifter is a fourth degree crime (IOW, a felony).
Link1:
Link2:
point?
Definition of felony shoplifting varies by state.
My understanding is that CA recently modified its shoplifting law. So that the new focus is the aggregate value of shoplifted items from different merchants. IOW, if CA resident is found with unpaid goods which were shoplifted from merchants A, B and C with an aggregate total of $1000 then CA resident could be charged with a felony. Because aggregate value of shoplifted goods ($1000) is greater than $950 《CA statutory felony threshold).
RealityForAll said:
drummerboy said:
RealityForAll said:
In NJ, more than $200 of merchandise shoplifter is a fourth degree crime (IOW, a felony).
Link1:
Link2:
point?
Definition of felony shoplifting varies by state.
thanks!
mtierney said:
Have you read about this? My guess is that no one in MOLand did…safe bet is that you already learned about the Vogue online cover, though.
“Then there’s Donald Trump, who could easily insert himself into the hurricane narrative in ways Harris cannot counter. Trump, for instance, offered free lodging in his South Florida hotels to hundreds of linemen; Harris can’t exactly dole out invites to the White House.
“Trump’s generosity may be downplayed by the mainstream media, but no matter. His allies will eagerly spread these “caring” messages across social media, reaching tens of millions of voters while Team Harris can do little more than push out cloying cover stories in Vogue.”
I'd put cash money down to bet in the end the Trump Organization acutally bills the power companies, FEMA, or the state of FL for the "free" rooms they're putting the linemen in. Probably bill all three.
ml1 said:
I'd put cash money down to bet in the end the Trump Organization acutally bills the power companies, FEMA, or the state of FL for the "free" rooms they're putting the linemen in. Probably bill all three.
A good (successful) business man or woman who is ready and able to pay for emergency services for those in need immediately might just expect to be reimbursed later. They are successful businesspeople — and not an entity to override a government agency or a charitable organization.
mtierney said:
“Then there’s Donald Trump, who could easily insert himself into the hurricane narrative in ways Harris cannot counter. Trump, for instance, offered free lodging in his South Florida hotels to hundreds of linemen; Harris can’t exactly dole out invites to the White House.
“Trump’s generosity may be downplayed by the mainstream media, but no matter. His allies will eagerly spread these “caring” messages across social media, reaching tens of millions of voters while Team Harris can do little more than push out cloying cover stories in Vogue.”
mtierney said:
A good (successful) business man or woman who is ready and able to pay for emergency services for those in need immediately might just expect to be reimbursed later. They are successful businesspeople — and not an entity to override a government agency or a charitable organization.
mtierney said:
ml1 said:
I'd put cash money down to bet in the end the Trump Organization acutally bills the power companies, FEMA, or the state of FL for the "free" rooms they're putting the linemen in. Probably bill all three.
A good (successful) business man or woman who is ready and able to pay for emergency services for those in need immediately might just expect to be reimbursed later. They are successful businesspeople — and not an entity to override a government agency or a charitable organization.
does "successful" include at least 6 bankruptcies and multiple court judgements of more than 20 million dollars for various frauds?
and that's just a start.
RealityForAll said:
drummerboy said:
RealityForAll said:
In NJ, more than $200 of merchandise shoplifter is a fourth degree crime (IOW, a felony).
Link1:
Link2:
point?
Definition of felony shoplifting varies by state.
My understanding is that CA recently modified its shoplifting law. So that the new focus is the aggregate value of shoplifted items from different merchants. IOW, if CA resident is found with unpaid goods which were shoplifted from merchants A, B and C with an aggregate total of $1000 then CA resident could be charged with a felony. Because aggregate value of shoplifted goods ($1000) is greater than $950 《CA statutory felony threshold).
yeah. and you apparently missed my point entirely.
at yesterday’s Trump rally in CA this scary scenario once again nearly took place…
If a presidential candidate were murdered — from either party — this close to Election Day, what procedure would take place? Anyone know?
mtierney said:
ml1 said:
I'd put cash money down to bet in the end the Trump Organization acutally bills the power companies, FEMA, or the state of FL for the "free" rooms they're putting the linemen in. Probably bill all three.
A good (successful) business man or woman who is ready and able to pay for emergency services for those in need immediately might just expect to be reimbursed later. They are successful businesspeople — and not an entity to override a government agency or a charitable organization.
but that wouldn't be "free" rooms then, would it?
drummerboy said:
what a surprise. another assassination attempt in the country that reveres guns almost as much as it reveres jesus.
according to the article it wasn't an assassination attempt.
mtierney said:
at yesterday’s Trump rally in CA this scary scenario once again nearly took place…
If a presidential candidate were murdered — from either party — this close to Election Day, what procedure would take place? Anyone know?
Didn't we just have this conversation a month ago?
Don’t you know someone else who’s constantly shooting himself in the foot?
Obama's speech in Pittsburgh is probably one of the best he's ever made. His appeal to Black men to see the racist and sexist danger in Trump and for them to examine their definition of masculinity, was on point. His support of the Harris/Walz is quite obvious…It’s a pity that people of the calibre of Obama and Harris pass only briefly across the American political landscape. But I thought you knew that about Obama when you voted for him…