Where are your guns?

Do you have guns? Where are they secured? Where is the key and who has access to it?

The people in the Florida case who housed the killer, made him put his guns in a gun safe. That didn't seem to work.


No guns in my house.


all over the basement, bullets scattered everywhere.

Nerf only tho.


more idiots.


1) they let an 18,19 year old child own and keep an assault rifle (multiple)

2) they knew he was sad and depressed yet still kept guns in the home (I don’t give a f$&@ if they are locked)


Others, feel free to add #s 3 through infinity


That couple is the embodiment of the sick gun culture that produces these killers. They've dug in so deep on the matter of gun rights that doing things that to the rest of the world seem ridiculously dangerous and absurd are just normal to them.

And there are tens of millions of these morons, polluting our society.


conandrob240 said:

more idiots.




1) they let an 18,19 year old child own and keep an assault rifle (multiple)

2) they knew he was sad and depressed yet still kept guns in the home (I don’t give a f$&@ if they are locked)




Others, feel free to add #s 3 through infinity



my understanding is that they said he could only continue to stay with them if he got rid of the gun.  They should have reported him, but I don't think it would have resulted in the removal of the gun under Florida's gun laws. 


I think they've been pretty clear that their response to his gun was that he had to buy his own gun safe.

And I'm sure I read, though I can't swear to it, that Ms. Snead said she wouldn't dream of infringing on his right to own a gun.

Steve said:

my understanding is that they said he could only continue to stay with them if he got rid of the gun.  They should have reported him, but I don't think it would have resulted in the removal of the gun under Florida's gun laws. 



I don’t keep a gun. I have an irrational fear that I would end up getting everyone else hurt instead of protecting us in case of an invasion or attack. 

But if I didn’t admit that these random mall, school, movie theater shootings didn’t keep me up at night I’d be lying.  


I have a Pirates of the Caribbean flintlock sort 1700's replica pistol.  I use it for cracking walnuts and

driving errant nails


The first time I realized that there may be guns in people’s houses was while talking to my son’s friend’s mom back in preschool and she casually mentioned the guns they had locked up. The parents both grew up in Colorado and New Mexico. It was a wake up. 


No guns. Heck, I even grew up in Arizona and I only know of one of my friends dad's having a gun - although I never actually saw it. I never knew of a personal friend growing up or through high school or college years that had a gun.


I keep my shotgun and air rifles in a locked closet.  However, others have a different idea of appropriate storage.  As  a result, gun concealment furniture is now a specialty item (some of this concealment furniture has locks -good; and some has no locks - bad).  

IMHO, it is not safe to have loaded concealed weapons hidden in furniture unless there is some locking mechanism.

Here are some examples of gun concealment furniture for you to peruse:


Years ago I was called to check on a possible house in Maplewood for a listing. The owners really wanted a ballpark listing price. After touring the house we sat down in the den for a chat.  As I settled in the chair the wife quickly said to the husband,"Should we tell her?" A pause - "You're sitting on a loaded revolver." Needless to say, I switched seats. Luckily the house did not go on the market for many years.  So guns are hidden in ridiculous places.



drummerboy said:

And I'm sure I read, though I can't swear to it, that Ms. Snead said she wouldn't dream of infringing on his right to own a gun.

Did they not know he had a history of violent anti-social mental illness? But lets not infringe on his right to own a gun.


at the very least, they knew he had depression. 


I have no doubt that there are many people (especially emotional, teens with lower levels of self control) that could use a gun as a weapon in a blind fit of rage or depression or abuse or endless bullying. You don’t have to be “evil”. That’s why access to guns is so scary 


a reason not to own a gun -- suicide.

This impulsivity was underscored in a 2001 study in Houston of people ages 13 to 34 who had survived a near-lethal suicide attempt. Asked how much time had passed between when they decided to take their lives and when they actually made the attempt, a startling 24 percent said less than 5 minutes; 48 percent said less than 20 minutes; 70 percent said less than one hour; and 86 percent said less than eight hours. The episodic nature of suicidal feelings is also borne out in the aftermath: 9 out of 10 people who attempt suicide and survive do not go on to die by suicide later. As Miller puts it, “If you save a life in the short run, you likely save a life in the long run.”

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/magazine/magazine_article/guns-suicide/


How many verified cases of a good guy with a gun stopping a bad guy with a gun do you actually hear of. I am sure they would be trumpeted. But I do not hear of many (certainly far few than bad guy gun usage). If I lived in remote Alaska bear country, I am sure I would have a gun for protection from bear. But I do not have any guns and have less than zero desire to have any. They are nothing but a danger.  


No working guns in the house. Never have had any. We do have an antique rifle from the 19th century that we got at an auction to hang over the fireplace, but the firing pin was removed and it is completely inoperable. Turned out I didn't like the way it looked and it's been stored in the attic for 30 years or so.


Regarding the Florida shooter: I read that his adoptive/foster parents insisted that his guns be locked in a gun safe. He went and got a gun safe and gave them the key for safekeeping (no pun intended). But, unbeknownst to them, he kept a copy of the key.


Well, ******’ duh.

The_Soulful_Mr_T said:

Regarding the Florida shooter: I read that his adoptive/foster parents insisted that his guns be locked in a gun safe. He went and got a gun safe and gave them the key for safekeeping (no pun intended). But, unbeknownst to them, he kept a copy of the key.




ska said:

How many verified cases of a good guy with a gun stopping a bad guy with a gun do you actually hear of. I am sure they would be trumpeted. But I do not hear of many (certainly far few than bad guy gun usage). If I lived in remote Alaska bear country, I am sure I would have a gun for protection from bear. But I do not have any guns and have less than zero desire to have any. They are nothing but a danger.  

It does happen. For example, the guy who shot the Texas church shooter. People who live in the country often have a legitimate need for a gun and will usually know how to store and use them responsibly. Of course, one situation like that is outweighed by the hundreds of accidental and intentional shootings that weren't prevented. 

https://nypost.com/2017/11/10/texas-church-shooting-hero-doesnt-want-the-praise/


even in that instance, the shooter was escaping when the bystanders opened fire on him.  The idea that the cops couldn't have given chase is a little dubious, imho.  At the time I felt like the "good guy with a gun" angle was overhyped so that the NRA could try to create a false equivalency between the mass shooter and the "good guys with guns."

kthnry said:



ska said:

How many verified cases of a good guy with a gun stopping a bad guy with a gun do you actually hear of. I am sure they would be trumpeted. But I do not hear of many (certainly far few than bad guy gun usage). If I lived in remote Alaska bear country, I am sure I would have a gun for protection from bear. But I do not have any guns and have less than zero desire to have any. They are nothing but a danger.  

It does happen. For example, the guy who shot the Texas church shooter. People who live in the country often have a legitimate need for a gun and will usually know how to store and use them responsibly. Of course, one situation like that is outweighed by the hundreds of accidental and intentional shootings that weren't prevented. 

https://nypost.com/2017/11/10/texas-church-shooting-hero-doesnt-want-the-praise/



Yes but the shooter did so much damage before he was shot that he would not have been able to do if he did not have a gun in the first place. 


not to mention that there was some amount of good fortune that a) the guy who intervened didn't himself get killed, and b) no innocent bystanders got caught in the crossfire.


Sadly, this satire is over 40 years old.


I have about 75 guns in my garage.  They fire nails, staples, and brad's.  Even those are double locked.


I remember that! 

nohero said:

Sadly, this satire is over 40 years old.




I have four sisters.  I am the only one who doesn’t carry.  They are in Ohio.  I am here. 


When I was in the seventh grade a classmate accidentally shot and killed his little sister.  He was found in the church sobbing. It made me never want to be around guns. 


When I was thirty and traveling with my SIL in Panama, we ended up in a bad situation.  I’m very thankful she was carrying.  




the airline has my pistol.  they collected it at the end of my flight



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