Amazing opinion piece in NY Times
Parts of the Op-Ed sound very much like what Woodward said in his book. The timing cannot be dismissed.
Woodward did talk to several senior officials when he wrote the book. Was it planned that one of those officials would release the Op-Ed the day after the Washington Post released parts of the book?
Sweetsnuggles said:
peaceinourtime said:Trump is not capable of writing that opinion piece.
i think trump wrote this so he could diva it up, and distract from that milquetoast Kavanaugh. And he likes to phone in stuff about himself pretending not to be himself. Besides, it distracts from Woodward's book.
He has a ghost writer, probably Miller.
Also it allows Trump to set himself up as a victim, and to discredit the NYT.
If the Times risked this for anything less than a high level WH and/or cabinet level person then they deserve any and all blowback.
This is a terrible precedent and dangerous for democracy however we feel about Trump. This person should resign and say this publicly - then they can claim to be the Resistance.
Melania's piece, translated from the original Slovenian article. A way to get around the pre-nup.
eliz said:
If the Times risked this for anything less than a high level WH and/or cabinet level person then they deserve any and all blowback.
This is a terrible precedent and dangerous for democracy however we feel about Trump. This person should resign and say this publicly - then they can claim to be the Resistance.
Yup. It was done to distract from.Kavanaugh's flagging performance, and from Cory Booker and Kamala Harris who are outshining Kavanaugh as we speak.When Trump saw how well Sheldon Whitehouse did, trump cooked it up for the evening press dump to create a panic. And trump is dialing it back now, ("...if it's a real person") it's a way to try to discredit the media. He has done these calls to the press before as some phony person to.say how wonderful he is before. This is just a more apocryphal version of that.
I'm not sure his ego could countenance such a fake op-ed. As you point out he's pretended to be other people in order to lionize himself. This piece skewers him pretty close to the bone on some topics.
The author is too important to not be where he is (or real problems could go down), hence the non-resignation. Which leads me to believe it's either Mattis or Pompeo.
The NYT would have met this writer, not simply re-printed what was scrawled on a paper and slid under the door.
dave said:
The author is too important to not be where he is (or real problems could go down), hence the non-resignation. Which leads me to believe it's either Mattis or Pompeo.
Pompeo owes his political career to the Koch brothers and the Kochs hate Trump.
cramer said:
dave said:Pompeo owes his political career to the Koch brothers and the Kochs hate Trump.
The author is too important to not be where he is (or real problems could go down), hence the non-resignation. Which leads me to believe it's either Mattis or Pompeo.
That would be truly fascinating.
The timing is bad if they want to distract from Woodward's book. That hits the shelves next week, right?
But if it is a distraction, CNN and MSNBC have fallen for it ... Kavanaugh hearing should be top of each website but on my phone browser at least, the #1 story on both sites in the N.Y. Times op-ed.
I saw this on Facebook but I don't think I could put it better:
"This person trumpets the Administration's destruction of the environment, the redistribution of wealth from the poor to the 1% and its war mongering and then says that their boss is amoral. I don't quite know what to make of that. I guess its sort of like the way the murderers look down their noses at the pedophiles in prison."
Klinker said:
I saw this on Facebook but I don't think I could put it better:
"This person trumpets the Administration's destruction of the environment, the redistribution of wealth from the poor to the 1% and its war mongering and then says that their boss is amoral. I don't quite know what to make of that. I guess its sort of like the way the murderers look down their noses at the pedophiles in prison."
Amen, brother.
cramer said:
dave said:Pompeo owes his political career to the Koch brothers and the Kochs hate Trump.
The author is too important to not be where he is (or real problems could go down), hence the non-resignation. Which leads me to believe it's either Mattis or Pompeo.
"Nearly canceling America’s involvement in a crucial trade deal. Believing diplomacy with North Korea comes down to his personal relationship with Kim Jong Un. Wanting to kill a foreign leader for using chemical weapons.
Those are just some of the surprising details about President Donald Trump in Bob Woodward’s anticipated book Fear. Excerpts have started to leak in multiple outlets, and they show how tumultuous — and potentially dangerous — Trump’s foreign policy has been."
https://www.vox.com/2018/9/4/17819298/woodward-book-fear-trump-north-korea-mattis-syria-assad
Good call, Dave.
Yeah - I think it is leaning a little towards Pompeo.
This article mentions, Pompeo, Larry Kudlow, Kevin Hasset and Dan Coats:
Trump should just fire everyone and run it himself - he does have a great brain and all - it's the reason why we're winning again.
Yeah, Coats is another good candidate.
It's Pompeo or Coats. I'm leaning towards Coats.
mrincredible said:
The timing is bad if they want to distract from Woodward's book. That hits the shelves next week, right?
But if it is a distraction, CNN and MSNBC have fallen for it ... Kavanaugh hearing should be top of each website but on my phone browser at least, the #1 story on both sites in the N.Y. Times op-ed.
It should be #1 story. Now, everyone has been conned and distracted and even if Trump goes, we are stuck with a racist, pro-corporate supreme court justice. However, John Dean just said he thinks it's John Kelly.
Lawrence O'Donnell says that he has an "educated guess" who it is and will say during his show tonight. I think I'll probably go to sleep.
What's interesting is that Trump and his people are accepting that this was actually written by an Administration Official and not just "fake news" created by the NY Times.
LOST said:
What's interesting is that Trump and his people are accepting that this was actually written by an Administration Official and not just "fake news" created by the NY Times.
Well, I'm not sure how to interpret that. It's either part of the smokescreen or he's honestly furious someone would betray him.
I'm a little weary of stories like this sucking the oxygen from the news cycle. I turn to CNN for news but it seems like they've just totally devoted themselves to the Trump circus. I'd like more coverage of things like the defunding of the agencies which protect the health of the Colorado River which the Trump OMB did without consulting the interior department. It's just one example.
Klinker said:
I saw this on Facebook but I don't think I could put it better:
"This person trumpets the Administration's destruction of the environment, the redistribution of wealth from the poor to the 1% and its war mongering and then says that their boss is amoral. I don't quite know what to make of that. I guess its sort of like the way the murderers look down their noses at the pedophiles in prison."
Amen + 1. This is called hedging your bets. Your work for, and support, a horrible administration. But just in case the winds will change, you claim (anonymously!) that you are secretly rejecting him (while still supporting all his policies of course). NYT should have never published this POS.
Klinker said:
I saw this on Facebook but I don't think I could put it better:
"This person trumpets the Administration's destruction of the environment, the redistribution of wealth from the poor to the 1% and its war mongering and then says that their boss is amoral. I don't quite know what to make of that. I guess its sort of like the way the murderers look down their noses at the pedophiles in prison."
X1000
Lawrence O'Donnell said either Pompeo or Coats but he narrowed it down to Coats. Pompeo is much younger and is looking to his future. Coats is in his 70's so is willing to say it as it is.
I don't think it is a cabinet-level official. One would think that anyone at that level wouldn't risk this type of communication. I think it will be like "Deep Throat" - a senior insider in a department somewhere who none of us have heard of. S/he doesn't need to be cabinet level or a 4-star military officer to be credible.
On the rest, there is something to be said about people serving in government but not approving of Trump. They're providing a counter-balance and they're gaining experience which might serve a more sane administration down the road. If everyone in Washington loved and believed in Trump, we'd be in even more trouble. Having the State, Justice and other departments and the intelligence agencies empty as some kind of protest to Trump would not serve us well at all.
Maybe its Sarah Sanders who has been on our side all this time. 
What I don't get, why would the author feel the need to write this in the first place.
Formerlyjerseyjack said:
What I don't get, why would the author feel the need to write this in the first place.
Guilt?
Second thoughts?
Fed up?
The person that wrote it is an a$$hole. They are saying, "don't worry while we still push a destructive conservative agenda. We won't let Trump ruin the country."
Coward.
Formerlyjerseyjack said:
Maybe its Sarah Sanders who has been on our side all this time.
What I don't get, why would the author feel the need to write this in the first place.
Because the question of "why is he still working there" has been asked about several people in the administration over the course of this administration, particularly when what Trump says is contradicted by someone in the administration. The answer has always been, at least as surmised by media, or by sources in the administration, that the person feels it is his duty to stay so as to curb the worst instincts of Trump. Here we have it directly from someone in the administration.
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Is that opinion piece for real? It reads like an onion piece.