From what I've seen there is no proof of this allegation. Discussions are not proof.
As for allegations against Russia - the ones I believe have pretty extensive reporting behind them. All this has is a claim by the IDF.
A Democratic Congressman Meeks, was interviewed an hour ago, as he left a security briefing and confirmed this. Admiral.Stavridis, mentioned it now, as well as a confirmation that at least 22 Americans have been killed.
I'm not quick to believe statements on social media so I do my best to research and this one was so shocking that I too, like you, felt it was hard to believe. That said, I've been watching interviews of people on the ground, both victims and war correspondents. I would love to discover that this was not true.
In the midst of the round the clock reporting, one sweet moment is a video of a neighborhood singing their national anthem from balconies. When overwhelmed by the worst of humanity, there is always a moment to remind us of their grace.
In the midst of the round the clock reporting, one sweet moment is a video of a neighborhood singing their national anthem from balconies. When overwhelmed by the worst of humanity, there is always a moment to remind us of their grace.
Thank you. This is worth sharing. Impossible not to shed tears.
I have two close friends whose daughters spent time in Israel. I'm reaching out to them today. I'll share this on my FB page. Some of us have added the flag to our profile pictures already.
Is there anyone whose reporting you are particularly following? I'm bouncing between MSNBC, CNN and i24.
The story of babies being found beheaded? It has been discussed in interviews. There are several respected war correspondents on the ground. I've been bouncing between 3 stations for days.
We've heard of atrocities in Ukraine committed by the Russians and It appeared that all on this board accepted it.
From what I've seen there is no proof of this allegation. Discussions are not proof.
As for allegations against Russia - the ones I believe have pretty extensive reporting behind them. All this has is a claim by the IDF.
A day later, as criticisms mount about the impact on Palestinian civilians -- including children -- of Israel's massive bombing of residential areas and cutting off food, fuel, electricity, the office of Netanyahu -- who is under fire for the intelligence failure and who is not averse to lying -- announces that it has confirmed that beheadings of children occurred. If the story is false, it would not be the example of war propaganda involving babies.
Earlier today, this report was posted by an independent Israeli journalist (2 of 5 parts)
1/5 I'm getting a lot of question about the reports of "Hamas beheaded babies” that were published after the media tour in the village. During the tour we didn’t see any evidence of this, and the army spokesperson or commanders also didn’t mention any such incidents. pic.twitter.com/qN4XZmlGAP
Thank you. This is worth sharing. Impossible not to shed tears.
I have two close friends whose daughters spent time in Israel. I'm reaching out to them today. I'll share this on my FB page. Some of us have added the flag to our profile pictures already.
Is there anyone whose reporting you are particularly following? I'm bouncing between MSNBC, CNN and i24.
I'm bouncing between the NYT, Times of Israel, YNET, MSNBC, CNN, Jersualem Post.
Yeah I don't get nohero's stance here, if he has one. First he says build troops and negotiate, don't bomb and invade. But then he posts Biden's remarks which were essentially go ahead and do what you have to do, using the weapons we gave you.
Not singling out the current administration here, as that's pretty much been the US policy for decades. But the current administration is very much supportive of Israel bombing and invading Gaza.
Yeah I don't get nohero's stance here, if he has one. First he says build troops and negotiate, don't bomb and invade. But then he posts Biden's remarks which were essentially go ahead and do what you have to do, using the weapons we gave you.
Not singling out the current administration here, as that's pretty much been the US policy for decades. But the current administration is very much supportive of Israel bombing and invading Gaza.
A day later, as criticisms mount about the impact on Palestinian civilians -- including children -- of Israel's massive bombing of residential areas and cutting off food, fuel, electricity, the office of Netanyahu -- who is under fire for the intelligence failure and who is not averse to lying -- announces that it has confirmed that beheadings of children occurred. If the story is false, it would not be the example of war propaganda involving babies.
Earlier today, this report was posted by an independent Israeli journalist (2 of 5 parts)
Paul, hopefully it was not true, but I disagree with Oren Ziv's conclusion that "these false claims" were needed to escalate the bombing of Gaza. I'm pretty sure that the videos of children, grandmothers, men and women being dragged off or the dead bodies strewn about were sufficient to incite both Israel and her supporters.
Intellectually I lean towards the concept of negotiation. I probably have watched too many reruns of Homeland, not to hope for an undercover operation to save the hostages but some reading about such captives as Gilad Shalit, held for over 5 years who was exchanged for over 1000 prisoners lead me to conclude that Hamas did not have a plan for negotiations.
In this climate I'm not sure that Israel has that kind of patience. Add to that the lingering question of whether or not Hamas is holding Americans or any other foreign nationals.
And if the stories of rape are true, I would argue that it takes particularly depraved men to rape in the midst of the slaughter they have committed. I think those images would be sufficient to illicit outrage.
Nonetheless I understand that the families of those held hostage will yearn for a peaceful solution and if I had a bit more faith, I would too.
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LOL. It's more that I recognize that Paul is senile and has completely lost his mind. Every answer you give can be distilled down to "It's the US/West/I1st World Nation's fault." Nothing else could possibly be the cause of the action. As others have pointed out quite well, you deny all who do not fall within the fault category any sense of self. You're pathetic and a disgrace.
Yeah I don't get nohero's stance here, if he has one. First he says build troops and negotiate, don't bomb and invade. But then he posts Biden's remarks which were essentially go ahead and do what you have to do, using the weapons we gave you.
Not singling out the current administration here, as that's pretty much been the US policy for decades. But the current administration is very much supportive of Israel bombing and invading Gaza.
Written by someone afflicted with Paul Derangement Syndrome who doesn't want you to read what Paul posted.
LOL. It's more that I recognize that Paul is senile and has completely lost his mind. Every answer you give can be distilled down to "It's the US/West/I1st World Nation's fault." Nothing else could possibly be the cause of the action. As others have pointed out quite well, you deny all who do not fall within the fault category any sense of self. You're pathetic and a disgrace.
Actually, only someone who's either brain-dead or just lying could conclude that what I posted (see below) has anything to do with "It's the US/West/1st World Nation's fault".
My earlier post referred to Congressman Gregory Meeks Democrat of New York, on the Foreign Affairs Committee. He shared the information about the babies. I wanted to share the highest ranking official that I had heard it from. Again, it will be welcome news if this is not accurate.
A day later, as criticisms mount about the impact on Palestinian civilians -- including children -- of Israel's massive bombing of residential areas and cutting off food, fuel, electricity, the office of Netanyahu -- who is under fire for the intelligence failure and who is not averse to lying -- announces that it has confirmed that beheadings of children occurred. If the story is false, it would not be the example of war propaganda involving babies.
Earlier today, this report was posted by an independent Israeli journalist (2 of 5 parts)
Paul, hopefully it was not true, but I disagree with Oren Ziv's conclusion that "these false claims" were needed to escalate the bombing of Gaza. I'm pretty sure that the videos of children, grandmothers, men and women being dragged off or the dead bodies strewn about were sufficient to incite both Israel and her supporters.
Intellectually I lean towards the concept of negotiation. I probably have watched too many reruns of Homeland, not to hope for an undercover operation to save the hostages but some reading about such captives as Gilad Shalit, held for over 5 years who was exchanged for over 1000 prisoners lead me to conclude that Hamas did not have a plan for negotiations.
In this climate I'm not sure that Israel has that kind of patience. Add to that the lingering question of whether or not Hamas is holding Americans or any other foreign nationals.
And if the stories of rape are true, I would argue that it takes particularly depraved men to rape in the midst of the slaughter they have committed. I think those images would be sufficient to illicit outrage.
Nonetheless I understand that the families of those held hostage will yearn for a peaceful solution and if I had a bit more faith, I would too.
I agree that what is known -- invasion, killing civilians, taking hostages -- has justifiably incited Israelis and others to support a strong response. But I think that cutting off food, water, electricity and fuel, in addition to massive attacks on residential areas, have raised basic humanitarian concerns among Israelis and others -- beyond their concern for the hostages -- that Netanyahu is seeking to silence with stories of unimaginable atrocities.
I think the first step on the long journey to a peaceful outcome is a cease-fire, which should be called for now.
Since the attack by Hamas, Israel has struck more than a thousand targets in the Gaza Strip, one of the most densely populated areas of the world, leveling apartment buildings, mosques and a marketplace.
My earlier post referred to Congressman Gregory Meeks Democrat of New York, on the Foreign Affairs Committee. He shared the information about the babies. I wanted to share the highest ranking official that I had heard it from. Again, it will be welcome news if this is not accurate.
I saw that interview on CNN and my understanding was that Meeks learned about the allegation of beheading from "the news" after he emerged from the classified briefing, which -- if true -- suggests that he was not told of that in the briefing itself. Perhaps a video of Meek's interview will appear or we will be able to find the transcript tomorrow.
Actually, only someone who's either brain-dead or just lying could conclude that what I posted (see below) has anything to do with "It's the US/West/1st World Nation's fault".
Paul, there's an old saying that seems to apply to you and your online presence. If you meet engage online with one person a day who is [insert insult here - e.g., brain-dead, lying, deranged], you met an [insert insult here]; if everyone with whom you engage online is an [insert insult here], you're the [insert insult here].
Now, I'm going to point out that you've insulted nearly everyone, if not actually everyone, with whom you've engaged on this site (I can't speak to other sites).
Actually, only someone who's either brain-dead or just lying could conclude that what I posted (see below) has anything to do with "It's the US/West/1st World Nation's fault".
Paul, there's an old saying that seems to apply to you and your online presence. If you meet engage online with one person a day who is [insert insult here - e.g., brain-dead, lying, deranged], you met an [insert insult here]; if everyone with whom you engage online is an [insert insult here], you're the [insert insult here].
Now, I'm going to point out that you've insulted nearly everyone, if not actually everyone, with whom you've engaged on this site (I can't speak to other sites).
What will it take for someone to believe that babies were killed in a kibbutz? You want graphic bloodied images of babies in their cribs? Some hostages are already being killed, it’s a good idea to shut down the internet in Gaza, because they want to kill these people on live streaming. Are we going to protest the lack of internet too? They should have thought about all this siht before going into Israel and slaughtering innocent civilians. What TF did they think was gonna happen afterwards? Israel was gonna sign some ceasefire? Or surrender? You FA & FO very quickly that you will not get away with it. I have no sympathy for them.
Hamas has a history of making Palestinians suffer without the slightest concern. It has done so again, having killed Israelis, whether they were babies or grandmothers. Israel will now act to ensure that Hamas will never be able to threaten Israel again. https://t.co/UqHH7Ir5B8
Hamas has a history of making Palestinians suffer without the slightest concern. It has done so again, having killed Israelis, whether they were babies or grandmothers. Israel will now act to ensure that Hamas will never be able to threaten Israel again. https://t.co/UqHH7Ir5B8
I don't know who Dennis Ross is, but anyone who thinks that they can militarily get rid of Hamas from within Gaza is delusional. So he's kinda getting off on the wrong foot with me.
I don't know who Dennis Ross is, but anyone who thinks that they can militarily get rid of Hamas from within Gaza is delusional. So he's kinda getting off on the wrong foot with me.
Ross headed a team of several people in the Office of the Special Middle East Coordinator, including his deputy Aaron David Miller, Robert Malley, Jon Schwarz, Gamal Helal, and Daniel Kurtzer (until 1994). Ross, consulting his team, drew up the Clinton Parameters as a bridging solution to save the Israeli–Palestinian negotiations in December 2000.[7]
Actually, only someone who's either brain-dead or just lying could conclude that what I posted (see below) has anything to do with "It's the US/West/1st World Nation's fault".
Paul, there's an old saying that seems to apply to you and your online presence. If you meet engage online with one person a day who is [insert insult here - e.g., brain-dead, lying, deranged], you met an [insert insult here]; if everyone with whom you engage online is an [insert insult here], you're the [insert insult here].
Now, I'm going to point out that you've insulted nearly everyone, if not actually everyone, with whom you've engaged on this site (I can't speak to other sites).
Serious projection here.
LOL. I haven't insulted anyone else here and no one else has insulted me.
The White House clarifies that President Joe Biden and other US officials have not seen or independently confirmed that Hamas terrorists beheaded Israeli children.
The clarification comes after Biden told Jewish leaders at the White House: “It is important for Americans to see what is happening. I have been doing this for a long time. I never thought that I would see, have confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children.”
A White House spokesperson says the president based his comments on claims from Netanyahu’s spokesman and media reports from Israel.
I'm hoping this is a sign that the Biden administration realizes it can't allow Netanyahu to dictate the narrative.
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