Waco melee... 9 people dead... but don't you dare call it a riot!

ramzzoinksus said:

You're just upset that it messes up your cop kill statistics,

What statistics are those? Care to share? 

I don't have an issue with cops shooting ARMED men regardless of race, particularly if they are shooting back. I have an issue with cops shooting unarmed men.

It's simple carry a gun or fight someone with a gun expect to be shot. No one brings a knife to a gun fight. I'll admit there are bad cops the problem is you seem to think they all are! That's like me saying all blacks are bad because i had a few bikes stolen from me by a black person and i have. Grow up and take responsibility for your actions and hope you don't cross paths with one of the bad cops. Now lets just hug it out we're all pink on the inside

Phil_Masucci said:

It's simple carry a gun or fight someone with a gun expect to be shot. No one brings a knife to a gun fight. I'll admit there are bad cops the problem is you seem to think they all are! That's like me saying all blacks are bad because i had a few bikes stolen from me by a black person and i have. Grow up and take responsibility for your actions and hope you don't cross paths with one of the bad cops. Now lets just hug it out we're all pink on the inside

I am not stating all cops are bad. I am stating that often law enforcement treats you differently because of your skin color. These are two different things. According to the Constitution we are all supposed to be treated equal under the eyes of the law, aren't we?   

Tangential, of course, but I'm guessing the BLM will back down yet again when armies of white militia members threaten them.

A coalition of public policy advocates warned on Tuesday that a group of armed conservative activists who have been guarding a mine in southern Oregon for over a month are a sign of an emerging violent anti-government movement...

...Sugar Pine Mine co-owner Rick Barclay summoned guards from the conservative Oath Keepers activist network following a stop-work order he received in March after BLM officials said equipment found on site did not meet requirements...

...The armed guards were still guarding the mine as of Tuesday, Oath Keepers spokeswoman Mary Emerick said, although she would not say how many.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/05/militia-involvement-in-oregon-mining-dispute-threatens-democracy-group-warns/

Phil_Masucci said:

It's simple carry a gun or fight someone with a gun expect to be shot. No one brings a knife to a gun fight. I'll admit there are bad cops the problem is you seem to think they all are! That's like me saying all blacks are bad because i had a few bikes stolen from me by a black person and i have. Grow up and take responsibility for your actions and hope you don't cross paths with one of the bad cops. Now lets just hug it out we're all pink on the inside

 Kumbaya, we are all equal right? 

 that could be white privilege talking, but its not reality for  people who are targetted minorities.    Easy to say when you and yours are not the target of racist policy and racist action.    

hoops said:

Phil_Masucci said:

It's simple carry a gun or fight someone with a gun expect to be shot. No one brings a knife to a gun fight. I'll admit there are bad cops the problem is you seem to think they all are! That's like me saying all blacks are bad because i had a few bikes stolen from me by a black person and i have. Grow up and take responsibility for your actions and hope you don't cross paths with one of the bad cops. Now lets just hug it out we're all pink on the inside

 Kumbaya, we are all equal right? 

 that could be white privilege talking, but its not reality for  people who are targetted minorities.    Easy to say when you and yours are not the target of racist policy and racist action.    

 QFT

White privileged lmfao you got the wrong guy. I was poor growing up have been singled out by black people and beat up called all kinds of names the difference between me and you is that i got over it and moved on to better things. Worked my butt off and never looked back. Blacks are not the only ones singled out think about the hillbillies out west the cops harassing them. Every area has it's criminal element white black brown it doesn't make a difference until a certain color is that element for that area. I get pulled over and harassed in NY just for having jersey plates..

I drive an old , loud , lowered , japanese import. I expect to end up in plastic restraints or hand cuffs everytime I'm stopped by the police (which is fairly often) i understand that its for the safety of the officer and that they likely think I'm in a gang or a drug dealer or a street racer. Doesn't matter if I'm in a suit or jeans and a tshirt its handcuffs time. Oh and I'm white. Could have something with me being the size of a small NFL lineman and having a really bad case of resting bitch face (people always assume I'm fuming mad just by looking at me.) Had I been enjoying some wings at twin peaks I likely would have be asked if I was part of this biker deal and possibly cuffed, processed and released.

Clearly you need to switch cars.

ctrzaska said:

Clearly you need to switch cars.

 Its not even a Legend or a Vigor its a friggin integra! The integra was the 90's crack dealer's 3rd or 4th choice!! IIRC it went Legend, Vigor, Lexus LS400, Infiniti Q45 , honda crx, and last but not least Acura Integra. I'm moving out of the country soon and either selling the bastard outright or shipping it to me on a container ship's return trip

Just roll it into the ocean, it'll float to you eventually.

Freeway said:

ctrzaska said:

Clearly you need to switch cars.

 Its not even a Legend or a Vigor its a friggin integra! The integra was the 90's crack dealer's 3rd or 4th choice!! IIRC it went Legend, Vigor, Lexus LS400, Infiniti Q45 , honda crx, and last but not least Acura Integra. I'm moving out of the country soon and either selling the bastard outright or shipping it to me on a container ship's return trip

I wanted an integra after I finished college but it was the number 1 stolen vehicle in the country that year. So i got an Isuzu and someone stole it three days after I drove it off the lot. 

Yeah integra were hot for a while. Theres a simple way to render any honda from 88-02 undrivable by removing a small part but thats another thread for another time.

Well...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/19/biker-gangs-shoot-kill-cops_n_7313940.html

What can I say?

And just to make it easier or worse? I guess it depends on which side you are on.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/may/19/texas-gun-laws-waco-gang-shooting-open-carry

Back to the original post and the title of this thread.   I've heard it called a shootout and a shooting , which to me sounds a lot worse than a riot.

separately,

This reminds me of something I read about 10 years ago .   In the desert southwest,  a local 7/11 type store became a biker hangout.  Every night the parking lot was full of members of a tough biker gang.  Regular patrons became afraid to go there.  The owner was too intimidated to make them leave and the local police did nothing. 

So, he had loudspeakers installed outside, and started broadcasting mantovani 1001 strings, and other Lawrence Welk type music on the loudspeakers.   The bikers left after a few minutes - never to return.

duplicate - bad internet

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sarahzm said:
Back to the original post and the title of this thread. I've heard it called a shootout and a shooting , which to me sounds a lot worse than a riot.
separately,
This reminds me of something I read about 10 years ago . In the desert southwest, a local 7/11 type store became a biker hangout. Every night the parking lot was full of members of a tough biker gang. Regular patrons became afraid to go there. The owner was too intimidated to make them leave and the local police did nothing.
So, he had loudspeakers installed outside, and started broadcasting mantovani 1001 strings, and other Lawrence Welk type music on the loudspeakers. The bikers left after a few minutes - never to return.

Free coffe for cops has a similar effect on unwated traffic.

GGartrell said:

sarahzm said:
Back to the original post and the title of this thread. I've heard it called a shootout and a shooting , which to me sounds a lot worse than a riot.
separately,
This reminds me of something I read about 10 years ago . In the desert southwest, a local 7/11 type store became a biker hangout. Every night the parking lot was full of members of a tough biker gang. Regular patrons became afraid to go there. The owner was too intimidated to make them leave and the local police did nothing.
So, he had loudspeakers installed outside, and started broadcasting mantovani 1001 strings, and other Lawrence Welk type music on the loudspeakers. The bikers left after a few minutes - never to return.

Free coffe for cops has a similar effect on unwated traffic.

Just make sure they don't spill it on themselves and then file a lawsuit against you!

Phil_Masucci said:
It's simple carry a gun or fight someone with a gun expect to be shot. No one brings a knife to a gun fight. I'll admit there are bad cops the problem is you seem to think they all are! That's like me saying all blacks are bad because i had a few bikes stolen from me by a black person and i have. Grow up and take responsibility for your actions and hope you don't cross paths with one of the bad cops. Now lets just hug it out we're all pink on the inside

Can't believe nobody has done this. Here you are baring your soul, reaching out and all-

Phil,

Sorry about your bike man. That's crazy racist. Freakin' black people! Did you get a good look at the guy?

Here's hoping that bike thief gets what's coming to him.

Big Hug,

flimbro

Thanks for sharing your experiences. After all, getting your ten speed nicked and your ass kicked in High School is EXACTLY the same as institutionalized racism.