What has Jimmy Dore been up to?

According to Jimmy Dore, he was going to this conference this past weekend, and promoted it on his show.

Conference: Build the New Paradigm, Defeat Green Fascism | The Schiller Institute

It's a LaRouche group.


"I got nuthin' to do."


What an endorsement!

What the hell is green fascism?


nohero said:

According to Jimmy Dore, he was going to this conference this past weekend, and promoted it on his show.

Conference: Build the New Paradigm, Defeat Green Fascism | The Schiller Institute

It's a LaRouche group.

So?   They might be against the war.  Avoiding nuclear holocaust makes strange bedfellows.  And since all the liberal Democrats are now neocons, the anti-war lane has been left open for right-wingers and weirdos.  Another squandered opportunity that Democrats used to own.  Those midterms are going to be brutal. 


drummerboy said:

"I got nuthin' to do."

What an endorsement!

What the hell is green fascism?

You can watch the video and find out.  Jimmy Dore was not participating in any event.  If he went it was probably to see his friend Jackson Hinkle who was on a panel. Both Dore and Hinkle think it's important to talk to all kinds of people.  They are not snobs.  


here's a video summary of the conference, with a selection of the nuttiest comments and a horrible musical performance.

From the looks of it, there were less than 50 people in attendance.


nan said:

nohero said:

According to Jimmy Dore, he was going to this conference this past weekend, and promoted it on his show.

Conference: Build the New Paradigm, Defeat Green Fascism | The Schiller Institute

It's a LaRouche group.

 the anti-war lane has been left open for right-wingers and weirdos.  

Finally, a morsel of self-acknowledgement.


nan said:

So?   They might be against the war.  Avoiding nuclear holocaust makes strange bedfellows … the anti-war lane has been left open for right-wingers and weirdos.  

What you don’t realize is that they’re not really “antiwar”. 


nohero said:

nan said:

The purpose of the war from the Russian side is to defend their country which is under attack. Instead of reassuring a nuclear power that we will leave them alone to mind their own business, we are up in their face and threatening them.  

I don't understand how a functioning adult can make that statement.  Russia invaded a country that had previously surrendered its nuclear weapons, on the promise that its borders would be respected by Russia.

Who attacked Russia? Who invaded Russia?

I'll wait for an answer.


nan said:
Now a lot of people would say, "Russia has no reason to feel threatened."   Really?  Last time I checked NATO was literally encircling Russia and that means the entire military arsenal including nuclear weapons has a so called "constitutional mandate" under NATO.  If you are a NATO country and you feel threatened, by Russia -- than you have the right to use nuclear weapons.  Why should Russia be threatened by that?


Have you studed a map lately?  Russia is a VERY big country.  NATO countries have a significant presence on one side of Russia.


yahooyahoo said:

Have you studed a map lately?  Russia is a VERY big country.  NATO countries have a significant presence on one side of Russia.

That map is misleading. Over in Alaska, you can see Russia from your house. 


yahooyahoo said:

Who attacked Russia? Who invaded Russia?

I'll wait for an answer.

One thing when disseminating Russian propaganda - never, never, never mention any aggressive action that Russia is ACTUALLY taking.

You'll rarely hear that Russia has even fired a gun.  You'll hear that all Ukrainians are cannon fodder, but you won't hear why and by who. 


yahooyahoo said:

nan said:
Now a lot of people would say, "Russia has no reason to feel threatened."   Really?  Last time I checked NATO was literally encircling Russia and that means the entire military arsenal including nuclear weapons has a so called "constitutional mandate" under NATO.  If you are a NATO country and you feel threatened, by Russia -- than you have the right to use nuclear weapons.  Why should Russia be threatened by that?


Have you studed a map lately?  Russia is a VERY big country.  NATO countries have a significant presence on one side of Russia.

Russia feels threatened by NATO expansion.  They have said that over and over.  You know who controls the narrative about this in the West--NATO.  And what does NATO tell you--Oh, Putin is just lying--he just wants to take over the world. With this lie they can absolve the West of any involvement.   They can just say Putin woke up on the wrong side of bed and invaded Ukraine. 

Meanwhile there was the US backed coup in 2014 and US weapons used against the people of the Donbass. News not carried much in the mainstream Western media. 

We would not like it if Russia put missiles in Mexico or Canada.  We had the Cuban Missile crisis in 1962.  

This is obvious and a no-brainer but many Americans clearly have no brain.


Dennis_Seelbach said:

nan said:

nohero said:

According to Jimmy Dore, he was going to this conference this past weekend, and promoted it on his show.

Conference: Build the New Paradigm, Defeat Green Fascism | The Schiller Institute

It's a LaRouche group.

 the anti-war lane has been left open for right-wingers and weirdos.  

Finally, a morsel of self-acknowledgement.

When the going gets weird the weird go professional.   The Democrats have lost touch. 


nan said:

We would not like it if Russia put missiles in Mexico or Canada. We had the Cuban Missile crisis in 1962.

If Russia put missiles in Mexico or Canada and the U.S. invaded in response, it’s reassuring to know that you and Paul would be here to explain why the U.S. had its reasons.


Russia has a history of invading and occuping many countries in Europe.  Putin is still pissed that Gorbachev broke up the Soviet Union. He wants to reclaim land in Eastern Europe.

In the meantime, no one is invading Russia.  No one wants to invade Russia, especially NATO.


Tankie cites Silvio "Bunga-Bunga" Berlusconi as "proof" that Russia's innocent. 


The EU lets the racism out and then doubles down.  This is the group countries want to join?


nan said:

The EU lets the racism out and then doubles down.  This is the group countries want to join?

Name us a country that doesn't have crazy racist elements.

As you make your list, you can skip Russia.


drummerboy said:

nan said:

The EU lets the racism out and then doubles down.  This is the group countries want to join?

Name us a country that doesn't have crazy racist elements.

As you make your list, you can skip Russia.

The guy made a poor choice for an analogy.

Meanwhile, there's Viktor Orban, an actual racist, who Paul Surovell speaks highly of on this message board. 


nohero said:

drummerboy said:

nan said:

The EU lets the racism out and then doubles down.  This is the group countries want to join?

Name us a country that doesn't have crazy racist elements.

As you make your list, you can skip Russia.

The guy made a poor choice for an analogy.

Meanwhile, there's Viktor Orban, an actual racist, who Paul Surovell speaks highly of on this message board. 

The guy said the quiet part about the EU out loud.  He's a high level official, capable of implementing real policy, not some Archie Bunker driving an old, filthy lounger in Queens. 

Paul speaks highly of Viktor Orban's  sensible views on Ukraine specifically.   Since the liberal Democrats have been brainwashed into neocons willing to sacrifice the whole planet for Ukraine, we need to go further afield for sanity.  I will support anyone who stands up against this madness and calls for peace negotiations which are overdue since last March at least.  

The traditional choices for common sense have lost their freaking minds. 


nohero said:

Tankie cites Silvio "Bunga-Bunga" Berlusconi as "proof" that Russia's innocent. 

Putin is the one that declared the Minsk II agreement was over and "no longer existed."

Blaming Ukraine for the end of that agreement is a smokescreen for his aggressive tactics in the Donbas.


yahooyahoo said:

nohero said:

Tankie cites Silvio "Bunga-Bunga" Berlusconi as "proof" that Russia's innocent. 

Putin is the one that declared the Minsk II agreement was over and "no longer existed."

Blaming Ukraine for the end of that agreement is a smokescreen for his aggressive tactics in the Donbas.

The Europeans (Germany and France) and Ukraine who were tasked with making sure it was implemented treated Minsk as a joke.  They never even tried to enforce it. 


Unlike Jimmy Dore, I'm not a foreign relations/policy expert oh oh but this article seems to be a pretty good summary of the Minsk agreements and why they failed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/why-the-minsk-accords-failed-to-bring-ukraine-peace/2022/02/22/dce921da-93f7-11ec-bb31-74fc06c0a3a5_story.html

In the search to avoid a potential war as Russian President Vladimir Putin has massed troops around Ukraine, France and Germany, backed by the U.S., pressed for implementation of the controversial Minsk peace accords as the best chance for a diplomatic solution. The package of agreements, which they helped negotiate with Russia after Ukrainian military defeats in 2014 and 2015, were complex, hotly disputed and went to the heart of what is at root a struggle over Ukrainian identity and sovereignty. On Feb. 22, Russian President Vladimir Putin pronounced the agreements dead, closing a door to diplomacy, a day after recognizing Ukraine’s separatist territories as states.

The only news source I could find that claimed Germany and France did not do their part was the Russian News Agency. 


Aaron Mate is filling in for Jimmy Dore and he discusses how the Grayzone has been dis-invited to the Web Summit conference in Lisbon.  

No debate allowed over the Ukraine war.  


Aaron Mate still filling in for Jimmy Dore.  He interviews Scott Ritter on Putin's 5 hour speech.


Aaron Mate is still filling in for Jimmy.  He provides proof that the antisemitism accusations against Corbyn were a lie.  


Haven't read this thread, but just wanted to share that @libtard01 on twitter is a Dore sock puppet account.  


Time to check in on Jimmy!


nan said:

Time to check in on Jimmy!

Let's not. 


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