When will the cycle of dependence be broken?


author said:

Then again had it not been for the soldiers of King George we would be speaking French now.

 If it had not been for the sailors and soldiers of the French at Yorktown we might be spelling  a lot of English  words with an unnecessary 'U".


mapleman said:ramzzoinksus said:If Britain (or soon enough England) eliminated the monarchy and replaced it, as in most parliamentary republics with a President the cost would not be significantly less.but the President would not assume office by virtue of winning a genetic lottery.  and wouldn't retain the office by virtue of continuing to breathe.  Like the Bush and Junior


BCC said:


author said:

Then again had it not been for the soldiers of King George we would be speaking French now.

 If it had not been for the sailors and soldiers of the French at Yorktown we might be spelling  a lot of English  words with an unnecessary 'U".

If it weren't for the French, many of those unnecessary "U's" wouldn't have been there in the first place. 


ridski, am I right in assuming that the majority of Brits love the royal family?


GL2 said:ridski, am I right in assuming that the majority of Brits love the royal family? More than they love Simon Cowell, not as much as they love Stephen Fry.Coincidentally, that's who we'd probably end up with as our Presidential candidates if we dethroned the royal family. 


ridski said:


BCC said:


author said:

Then again had it not been for the soldiers of King George we would be speaking French now.

 If it had not been for the sailors and soldiers of the French at Yorktown we might be spelling  a lot of English  words with an unnecessary 'U".

If it weren't for the French, many of those unnecessary "U's" wouldn't have been there in the first place. 

 Neither would we.


ETA Maybe you would and you'd even be a citizen.


BCC said:ridski said:BCC said:author said:Then again had it not been for the soldiers of King George we would be speaking French now. If it had not been for the sailors and soldiers of the French at Yorktown we might be spelling  a lot of English  words with an unnecessary 'U".If it weren't for the French, many of those unnecessary "U's" wouldn't have been there in the first place.  Neither would we.ETA Maybe you would and you'd even be a citizen. Okay, now you've lost me.


ridski said:

BCC said:ridski said:BCC said:author said:Then again had it not been for the soldiers of King George we would be speaking French now. If it had not been for the sailors and soldiers of the French at Yorktown we might be spelling  a lot of English  words with an unnecessary 'U".If it weren't for the French, many of those unnecessary "U's" wouldn't have been there in the first place.  Neither would we.ETA Maybe you would and you'd even be a citizen. Okay, now you've lost me.

 If the French fleet hadn't blockaded Yorktown and it's soldiers supported the Americans, the Brits might have won the battle and possibly the war. 

Have I found you?


BCC said:ridski said:BCC said:ridski said:BCC said:author said:Then again had it not been for the soldiers of King George we would be speaking French now. If it had not been for the sailors and soldiers of the French at Yorktown we might be spelling  a lot of English  words with an unnecessary 'U".If it weren't for the French, many of those unnecessary "U's" wouldn't have been there in the first place.  Neither would we.ETA Maybe you would and you'd even be a citizen. Okay, now you've lost me. If the French fleet hadn't blockaded Yorktown and it's soldiers supported the Americans, the Brits might have won the battle and possibly the war. Have I found you?My point is that etymologically, English stole the unnecessary "U's" from Old French. Without the French we wouldn't have those "U's" in words like Colour and Armour for Webster to remove from the American version of the language. The good news is that we all get to blame the French, which makes sense, because it's usually all their fault anyway.


ridski said:

BCC said:ridski said:BCC said:ridski said:BCC said:author said:Then again had it not been for the soldiers of King George we would be speaking French now. If it had not been for the sailors and soldiers of the French at Yorktown we might be spelling  a lot of English  words with an unnecessary 'U".If it weren't for the French, many of those unnecessary "U's" wouldn't have been there in the first place.  Neither would we.ETA Maybe you would and you'd even be a citizen. Okay, now you've lost me. If the French fleet hadn't blockaded Yorktown and it's soldiers supported the Americans, the Brits might have won the battle and possibly the war. Have I found you?My point is that etymologically, English stole the unnecessary "U's" from Old French. Without the French we wouldn't have those "U's" in words like Colour and Armour for Webster to remove from the American version of the language. The good news is that we all get to blame the French, which makes sense, because it's usually all their fault anyway.

 Ridski has big problems. Ones no one else seems to have.


Yeah, I just reported this to Jamie, too. Poor guy.

Bet the Romans regret having invaded and civilized this island. ;-)


They only managed 3/4 of it. The rest, funnily enough, is where my ancestors are from. Uncivilized skirt-wearing men that they were.

big problems with the quote function


Anybody else, or is it just me?


ridski said:

Anybody else, or is it just me?

 totally you


This is boring. Can we talk about the cute baby again?



ml1 said:


ridski said:

Anybody else, or is it just me?

 totally you

look at me, I'm quoting! 



ridski said:

Just me, then.

I'm still quoting! 



mapleman said:

I'm puzzled that millions of Americans love to observe every family milestone of a group of people whose very existence is antithetical to everything that is good and great about the United States.

I am a fan of QEIIR.  UK has a democracy. The Queen undertakes various official, ceremonial, diplomatic and representational duties. As the monarchy is constitutional, the monarch is limited to non-partisan functions such as bestowing honors.  Sounds like a pretty efficient system to me.  The constitutional monarchy allows politicians to instead work on the real issues rather than cutting ribbons. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3dR7u7TPNo


God save the Queen

God save our gracious Queen
Long live our noble Queen
God save the Queen
Send her victorious
Happy and glorious
Long to reign over us

O Lord our God arise
Scatter her enemies
And make them fall
Confound their politics
Frustrate their knavish tricks
On Thee our hopes we fix
God save us all

Thy choicest gifts in store
On her be pleased to pour
Long may she reign
May she defend our laws
And ever give us cause
To sing with heart and voice


Not in this land alone
But be God's mercies known
From shore to shore
Lord make the nations see
That men should brothers be
And form one family
The wide world over

From every latent foe
From the assassins blow
God save the Queen
O'er her thine arm extend
For Britain's sake defend
Our mother, prince, and friend
God save the Queen

Lord grant that Marshal Wade
May by thy mighty aid
Victory bring
May he sedition hush
And like a torrent rush
Rebellious Scots to crush
God save the King



The royal family is, by far, the biggest landlord in the UK. Are you saying that all the rent they collect isn't enough to fund their lives and that taxes pay some of their expenses?



Tom_Reingold said:

The royal family is, by far, the biggest landlord in the UK. Are you saying that all the rent they collect isn't enough to fund their lives and that taxes pay some of their expenses?


 

Actually, the biggest landlord in the UK is the Gerald Grosvenor, the Duke of Westminister who owns most of the land upon which Central London is built.  When you buy a multi-million dollar townhouse or flat or billion dollar apartment building in London you are not really taking ownership of the property - only of a very long term lease, called a leashold which runs out.  Leaseholds are written for 100 years  when they are first created -but they do run out, and the property reverts to the ownerThe Duke of Westminister.

I enjoy watching the Royals but every time I see Charles and Camilla I say a silent prayer of thanks to those courageous men who signed the declaration of independence because it would make me sick to think my tax dollars were supporting them.



Tom_Reingold said:

The royal family is, by far, the biggest landlord in the UK. Are you saying that all the rent they collect isn't enough to fund their lives and that taxes pay some of their expenses?

 I believe that the Royals transferred most of their lands and rental properties (the "Crown Estate") to the parliament in exchange for a annuity (called the Civil List) for the royal family.  Making the annuity to the royals a contractual arrangement.   However, beginning in 2012, legislation provided that the Civil List was set as  a percentage of the Crown Estate's annual net revenue (currently set at fifteen percent ("15.0%")).  See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_Estate



RealityForAll said:


 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3dR7u7TPNo


God save the Queen

God save our gracious Queen
Long live our noble Queen
God save the Queen
Send her victorious
Happy and glorious
Long to reign over us

 Or:

https://youtu.be/8RcRazlnuJ4


God save the queen
The fascist regime
They made you a moron
Potential H-bomb

God save the queen
She ain't no human being
There is no future
In England's dreaming

Don't be told what you want
Don't be told what you need
There's no future, no future,
No future for you

God save the queen
We mean it man
We love our queen
God saves

God save the queen
'Cause tourists are money
And our figurehead
Is not what she seems

Oh God save history
God save your mad parade
Oh Lord God have mercy
All crimes are paid

When there's no future
How can there be sin
We're the flowers in the dustbin
We're the poison in your human machine
We're the future, your future

God save the queen
We mean it man
We love our queen
God saves

God save the queen
We mean it man
And there is no future
In England's dreaming

No future, no future,
No future for you
No future, no future,
No future for me

No future, no future,
No future for you
No future, no future
For you


On a related but thread drift matter an old KGB gy is now claiming that the KGB financed the Sex Pistols (and punk rock in general) and even helped to craft their lyrics.


If true it is one of the Soviet Unions true contributions to humanity.


http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/sex-pistols-were-financed-by-ussr-to-destabilize-western-world-admits-ex-kgb-agent/


SEX PISTOLS WERE FINANCED BY USSR TO ‘DESTABILIZE WESTERN WORLD’, ADMITS EX-KGB AGENT

As many have said in reaction to that story, "They could have picked a better band."


Damn, if anyone needs any new plots for the new X-Files miniseries, there's plenty there at World News Daily Report.



ramzzoinksus said:

On a related but thread drift matter an old KGB gy is now claiming that the KGB financed the Sex Pistols (and punk rock in general) and even helped to craft their lyrics.


If true it is one of the Soviet Unions true contributions to humanity.


http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/sex-pistols-were-financed-by-ussr-to-destabilize-western-world-admits-ex-kgb-agent/


SEX PISTOLS WERE FINANCED BY USSR TO ‘DESTABILIZE WESTERN WORLD’, ADMITS EX-KGB AGENT

pretty much backfired on them, didn't it?


Not that I believe this particular tale of Soviet Punkitide, but the KGB and CIA rarely came up with the kinds of schemes attributed to them. Usually they would see something, see that it was working either for or against their interests, then either bank roll or put out counter-messaging in the media.

Looking at that site, as usual, there are plenty of reader who don't realize they're being punked. Punked! Get it?

Although I do love the thought that Sergei was sitting there one day and said "I have this idea. It is called The Sex Pistols. They will make record, then tour England once, then they will go to America and play tiny country and western bars and have bottles thrown at them until they all quit and piss off to South America with all our money and make records with train robber. Genius!"


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