The TSA - "A lot of what we do is make-believe."
It's not just clothing, Tom, it the full uniform budget. And it's the maximum amount, not the actual amount.
Much as I dislike TSA with their many silly rules, this time they were right to check. However, they should have helped him. They should be required to help anyone that who has difficulty.project37 said:
Meanwhile:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2013/mar/19/tsa-agents-humiliated-wounded-marine-aggressive-in/
Excerpt:
Transportation Security Administration inspectors forced a wounded Marine who lost both of his legs in an IED blast and who was in a wheelchair to remove his prosthetic legs at one point, and at another point to stand painfully on his legs while his wheelchair was examined, according to a complaint a congressman has registered with the TSA.
Rep. Duncan Hunter said in his letter Monday that the Marine, who is still on active duty and showed TSA agents his military identification, was still forced to undergo that scrutiny.
“A TSA office asked the Marine to stand and walk to an alternate area, despite the fact that he physically could not stand or walk on his own. With numerous TSA officers sitting and unwilling to assist, an officer then made him remove his legs, then put them back on, only to advance to a secondary screening location where he was asked again to stand, with extraordinary difficult, while his wheelchair was examined for explosives,” Mr. Hunter said.
He also said TSA officers initially directed the Marine to the wrong line, then made him move lines but made no effort to help him. The incident occurred at Phoenix’s Sky Harbor airport last week, as a group of Marines was returning to San Diego.
How do we know that he wasn't a disgruntled suicidal marine? Remember the captain who shot up Ft Hood? Or the Sergeant that shot an officer and some of his cohorts in his Iraqi base?
A dedicated terrorist with the right kind of support can get military Id's that are "real." Even with all the security features our driver licenses have, kids are getting of-age driver licenses that look real. The only way to find out those are fake is when they query the MV database.
A terrorist with enough money and support can get the same equipment to produce ID's as used by government agencies. That would be so convenient for terrorists to allow people to pass because they are in wheelchairs with prosthetic limbs having the "correct" id.
BG9 said:
How do we know that he wasn't a disgruntled suicidal marine? Remember the captain who shot up Ft Hood? Or the Sergeant that shot an officer and some of his cohorts in his Iraqi base?
Yeah, I'm going to trust the folks that let loaded weapons onboard (and say "tee-hee, oops!" as a response) with psychological profiling. They should have helped him, end of story.
Meanwhile:
CNN: TSA agents at Newark spared from firings after violations
Again, why do we tolerate this?
Last week the family took a vacation and it occurred to me that I can take a pocket knife but I can't take a box of chocolate milk for the kids. If you do want to take the box of chocolate milk you must submit to a full pat down. This of course is after you have already gone through the scanner. I am not sure how the box of chocolate milk and pat down are related, but that is the TSA for you. Also, do we really believe that all the food and liquids are checked before they go the retail shops? Of course they aren't.
One other thing... if you are over 70 something or are under I think 12 you don't have to take your shoes or light jackets off. This makes sense of course...
One other thing... if you are over 70 something or are under I think 12 you don't have to take your shoes or light jackets off. This makes sense of course...
Oct 6, 2013 at 6:42pm Edited
This 9-year-old child's excellent adventure, without a ticket, took him on a flight to Las Vegas from Minneapolis. The TSA claims the kid was screened so it was perfectly safe. The boy was not advised that you must be 21-years-of age to gamble.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/07/us-usa-lasvegas-stowaway-idUSBRE9950F520131007
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/07/us-usa-lasvegas-stowaway-idUSBRE9950F520131007
Tom_Reingold said:
$50M for 50,000 officers is $1,000 per officer. That's a lot of clothing, isn't it?
50,000 of these wankers?
The primary purpose of TSA and Homeland Security is to keep people scared. Scared people make good sheeple.
jerseyjack said:
The primary purpose of TSA and Homeland Security is to keep people scared. Scared people make good sheeple.
Scared people = military spending. The country is so willing to spend on military "defense" (basically killing people), yet so unwilling to fund healthcare.
jerseyjack said:
There was the story on NPR last week of the Dutch woman whose friend gave her a package to take to his family in Bethlehem. When she landed, she couldn't find the family nor any further contact with her friend. Finally she opened the box and saw wires. It was a pressurized detonator that failed. The incident was in the '70's.
This is exactly why El Al security always asks if you are carrying anything for someone else, or if anyone else has had access to your luggage.
The ticket agents used to ask this all the time when you checked bags. Now you go to a kiosk and check your ags and the clerk pays less attention than the airport janitor.
Dumbest questions ever. Has anyone with malevolent aims ever answered yes? Somehow I'm thinking no, probably not.
The question assumes the individual being asked is not in on the "plot." In the example above, the person was not.
It's all about human conditioning.
If they tell you enough, these procedures keep you "safe", people start to believe it.
Kind of how when the price of gasoline goes from $2.00 a gallon to $3.50 per gallon, then dips to $2.75, you think you're getting a "deal".
If they tell you enough, these procedures keep you "safe", people start to believe it.
Kind of how when the price of gasoline goes from $2.00 a gallon to $3.50 per gallon, then dips to $2.75, you think you're getting a "deal".
Feb 3, 2014 at 3:58am Edited
SlyFoxy1 said:
It's all about human conditioning.
If they tell you enough, these procedures keep you "safe", people start to believe it.
Kind of how when the price of gasoline goes from $2.00 a gallon to $3.50 per gallon, then dips to $2.75, you think you're getting a "deal".
Just another example of The Man trying to keep us Middle Class Suburbanites down.
UFIA in the airport security line is exactly like paying an extra $8 per tank of gasoline.
Interestingly, w/ all the $$ spent on the TSA, the back scatter machines sold to us by Michael Chertoff which are as likely to give you cancer as you are to die from a terror attack, all of the attempted attacks since 9-11 have been stopped by the passengers.
Good times.
Good times.
Feb 3, 2014 at 4:20am Edited
RobB said:
UFIA in the airport security line is exactly like paying an extra $8 per tank of gasoline.
I had to look up UFIA. There's an acronym for everything, it seems...
MoralTerpitude said:
Interestingly, w/ all the $$ spent on the TSA, the back scatter machines sold to us by Michael Chertoff which are as likely to give you cancer as you are to die from a terror attack, all of the attempted attacks since 9-11 have been stopped by the passengers.
Good times.
While I agree with the sentiment, we don't know that.
Just the other day, I was sitting on the plane in front of a retired cop from Florida, calmly munching on some popcorn. I was listening to a collection of old Beatles concerts (don't ask why) when the plug from my headset pulled out of my phone, so that the sound was playing from the speaker. I was skipping around the tracks trying to find my favorite songs and I didn't realize what had happened.
Suddenly, I felt something jabbing me. The seat lurched backwards. The phone slipped off my lap and through some freak movement of my arm, the handful of popcorn I was raising to my mouth flew over the back of the seat, just as the gentleman seated behind me was rising and leaning forward to get my attention.
Thanks to the TSA, I am alive to write this.
Suddenly, I felt something jabbing me. The seat lurched backwards. The phone slipped off my lap and through some freak movement of my arm, the handful of popcorn I was raising to my mouth flew over the back of the seat, just as the gentleman seated behind me was rising and leaning forward to get my attention.
Thanks to the TSA, I am alive to write this.
Just a reminder: $7 billion annual budget.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/exclusive-undercover-dhs-tests-find-widespread-security-failures/story?id=31434881
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/06/tsa-fails-security-tests-gets-new-director.html
This story made me laugh out loud.
gaijin said:
Just the other day, I was sitting on the plane in front of a retired cop from Florida, calmly munching on some popcorn. I was listening to a collection of old Beatles concerts (don't ask why) when the plug from my headset pulled out of my phone, so that the sound was playing from the speaker. I was skipping around the tracks trying to find my favorite songs and I didn't realize what had happened.
Suddenly, I felt something jabbing me. The seat lurched backwards. The phone slipped off my lap and through some freak movement of my arm, the handful of popcorn I was raising to my mouth flew over the back of the seat, just as the gentleman seated behind me was rising and leaning forward to get my attention.
Thanks to the TSA, I am alive to write this.
Great.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/11/tsa-airport-screeners-ability-to-detect-weapons-declared-pitiful/
http://nypost.com/2015/11/03/weapons-smuggled-past-tsa-screeners-with-ease-officials/
Scared of what? The four extra TSA agents standing behind the security checkpoint laughing and talking to each other while the security line snakes through the airport terminal?
jerseyjack said:
The primary purpose of TSA and Homeland Security is to keep people scared. Scared people make good sheeple.
May 13, 2016 at 4:06am Edited
Check this out. They want more money, so look what they've done to the travelers at O'Hare (oops, my bad it's actually Midway). Heads-up, the guy understandably drops some f-bombs at the end:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byUVR04CMBU&feature=youtu.be
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/congress-rips-tsa-smurfing-bonus-practices-n572986
The scary thing is that all those people are crammed in line not too far from the bins full of nail clippers and water bottles. What if one of those bins suddenly went off?!?
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