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Klinker said:
 Sigh.... you simply don't get it and, reading this thread, I don't think you ever will.  Obviously, your opinion is your own but you have to understand that it isn't going to be very relevant to anyone else.

 OK.  Where I come from, if you are going to make accusations, you should have some minimal evidence to back up an accusation.   I would be upset with my 10 year old if he could not muster more of a case than the people on this thread.  

Of course, you are entitled to your opinion.  At the same time, there is no doubt that you are not even cognizant enough to be ashamed of yourself. 

If only max_weisenfeld were more willing to engage in a thoughtful discussion. What a weenie.

DaveSchmidt said:
If only max_weisenfeld were more willing to engage in a thoughtful discussion. What a weenie.

 He has tendencies towards fascism, and that's all I have to say on the matter. 

Robert_Casotto said:
ditto.

 Well, its good to see a little self awareness on your part.

terp said:
 He has tendencies towards fascism, and that's all I have to say on the matter. 

I posted this in a different thread a couple of weeks ago, but if you are looking for more info on Trump's use of fascist politics, it may provide some insight:  

Trump has to promote the propaganda of some scary invaders (Muslims, immigrants/refugees) of the US in order to maintain his use of the "us-vs-them" fascist playbook. 

https://psmag.com/news/trump-and-the-playbook-of-fascist-politics

Unfortunately, as we can see within our own country with these fabricated threats, fascist playbooks often work extremely well.

sprout said:

terp said:
 He has tendencies towards fascism, and that's all I have to say on the matter. 

I

https://psmag.com/news/trump-and-the-playbook-of-fascist-politics

 I perused the article. I would ask that terp read it and tell us what he thinks.

STANV said:

sprout said:

terp said:
 He has tendencies towards fascism, and that's all I have to say on the matter. 

I

https://psmag.com/news/trump-and-the-playbook-of-fascist-politics

 I perused the article. I would ask that terp read it and tell us what he thinks.

Trump is more a symptom than a cause. Very true.

from Bob Roe:  Big thread drift.  Stan, i am glad to see your opinions on MOL.  Come over to the park Saturday 5/4, between 10am and 2pm and have a veggie  burger or veggie dog on us, the Environmental Committee.  You do not even have to help with cleaning up the brook.  We will be happy just to see you and wish you congrats for all the years you worked helping our Township.  

I read the article.  I'm struck by a comment that the interviewee made that there has always been a fascist element to American politics.  I made this point(or really I was quoting Ron Paul) years ago on this board.  The thread turned into "He shouldn't use the term fascism even if there may be truth to it.  That's irresponsible!"  It is interesting to hear that claim so prominently and regularly today.

I think that this is a symptom of tribalism.  Of course, when Ron Paul brought it up he was talking about the centralization of power both at the Federal level and within the Executive branch.   And the partnership between large Corporate entities and the Federal Government.  This is not a new trend.  This precedes Donald Trump by a long shot.

Again, while I don't like Trump's rhetoric, I don't see any great new crimes.  Of course the rhetoric is often sensationalized, exaggerated, and taken out of context.  What I don't see is any new power grabs.  I see corruption in line with a typical 21st Century Administration.  

The difference seems to be that people really don't like this president, so there is a lot more visibility and a much more severe reaction than you typically see.  

No new power grabs? What do you call his total opposition to any Congressional subpoenas. He is trying to decrease the power of the Legislative Branch to increase the power of the Executive.

Congress exercises oversight of the Executive. If they can't perform that function it certainly increases the power of the Executive. 

terp said:
I read the article.  I'm struck by a comment that the interviewee made that there has always been a fascist element to American politics.  I made this point(or really I was quoting Ron Paul) years ago on this board.  The thread turned into "He shouldn't use the term fascism even if there may be truth to it.  That's irresponsible!"  It is interesting to hear that claim so prominently and regularly today.
I think that this is a symptom of tribalism.  Of course, when Ron Paul brought it up he was talking about the centralization of power both at the Federal level and within the Executive branch.   And the partnership between large Corporate entities and the Federal Government.  This is not a new trend.  This precedes Donald Trump by a long shot.
Again, while I don't like Trump's rhetoric, I don't see any great new crimes.  Of course the rhetoric is often sensationalized, exaggerated, and taken out of context.  What I don't see is any new power grabs.  I see corruption in line with a typical 21st Century Administration.  
The difference seems to be that people really don't like this president, so there is a lot more visibility and a much more severe reaction than you typically see.  

 Which is a good thing, no?

STANV said:
No new power grabs? What do you call his total opposition to any Congressional subpoenas. He is trying to decrease the power of the Legislative Branch to increase the power of the Executive.
Congress exercises oversight of the Executive. If they can't perform that function it certainly increases the power of the Executive. 

 I think this goes to the courts now.  This is nothing new.  I'm sure the Administration thinks the Dems are just trying to score political points.   Just like the Obama administration did when they resisted investigations into the "Fast & Furious" program. 

ridski said:
 Which is a good thing, no?

 I think it's a good thing as long as the same people who don't like this president hold the next president to the same standard.  Alas, I think that's unlikely.  I do hope I am wrong. 

terp said:
 I think it's a good thing as long as the same people who don't like this president hold the next president to the same standard.  Alas, I think that's unlikely.  I do hope I am wrong. 

 Agreed. Same here.

terp said:
Again, while I don't like Trump's rhetoric, I don't see any great new crimes.  Of course the rhetoric is often sensationalized, exaggerated, and taken out of context.  What I don't see is any new power grabs.  I see corruption in line with a typical 21st Century Administration.  
The difference seems to be that people really don't like this president, so there is a lot more visibility and a much more severe reaction than you typically see.  

Yeah, Trump is really not more corrupt or overreaching than any other administration, say Obama. It's just that people don't like him, that's the only difference. There are good people on both sides. That kind of stuff.

I'm really reluctant to revive this thread, however in regards to the original post:

Did anyone else think the Hebrew sign was ungrammatical, at that big announcement last week? To me it looked as if someone had simply run 'Trump Heights' through Google Translate or similar software - nothing seemed in the right linguistic position. 

(My Ivrit is not that fluent these days, but my proofreader's alarm bells all rang for days)

Trump = Fascism.   Look up the economic definition of fascism. In America, it's name is dressed up and is called Corporatism. 

After you get the definition, review the actions of the Trump administration. 

Is Trump Fascist? Does the Pope **** in the woods?

yeah, but that's not answering the linguistic question of the Hebrew translation above.  I'm not asking about the politics, just the English/Hebrew/English (this time, anyway). 

Formerlyjerseyjack said:
Trump = Fascism.   Look up the economic definition of fascism. In America, it's name is dressed up and is called Corporatism. 
After you get the definition, review the actions of the Trump administration. 

...and the Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan administrations too

lord_pabulum said:

Formerlyjerseyjack said:
Trump = Fascism.   Look up the economic definition of fascism. In America, it's name is dressed up and is called Corporatism. 
After you get the definition, review the actions of the Trump administration. 

...and the Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan administrations too

 Please stop it. I revived the thread to ask a linguistic question, which I have repeated. I stressed that I am referring to the original post, and also included a pic of the Hebrew phrase I'm questioning. I'd like a serious response to my question.

Usually in Hebrew, I think  I'd expect the name to come first and the descriptor second. But I can think of a few examples where that's not the case. In the pic above, it looks as if the name has been translated for English-speaking readers painfully picking out the letters by looking at the English ones that is, further blatant pandering to supposed US interests. 

I don't know, but perhaps the pey without the dot could be seen as a fey..... recalling the original Drumpf.