The Rose Garden and White House happenings: Listening to voters’ concerns

Well, that kind of settles it, doesn't it?  If mtierney thinks it's "known", it's almost certainly pure bunk.  

She is, after all, drawing on a finely curated collection of the most inaccurate news sources on the internet. 


ml1 said:

I have no idea what that cartoon is supposed to mean. 

Its a picture of mtierney scrounging for cookies.  The artist was a little harsh about the hair loss. : (


Smedley said:

This is turning into another circular discussion if it's not there already. Lots of MSM marginalized the lab leak theory back early in the pandemic which I previously posted about. And MOL consensus is pretty highly correlated with MSM when it's onto an anti-Republican narrative, which that was. And just recently you effectively labeled lab leak theory as misinformation. Although you did seem to clarify that that wasn't your intent.

but if you and everyone else are saying a lab leak theory is and always a plausible, ie reasonable, theory, then mea culpa for misunderstanding and we're all on the same page.

it's possible to believe the theory is a possibility AND recognize that lots of bad faith actors are putting forth a "theory" that strongly implies that it's already proven that a lab was the source of COVID-19.



ml1 said:

I have no idea what that cartoon is supposed to mean. 

Biden's got his hands in the Chinese cookie jar.

hyuk-hyuk


drummerboy said:

Biden's got his hands in the Chinese cookie jar.

Thank you.


DaveSchmidt said:

Thank you.

Sorry - I jumped several posts before I commented. Page break situation.


DaveSchmidt said:

The metaphorical cookie jar, in which a cartoon hand is caught:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/16/politics/house-gop-memo-biden-family/index.html

I guess I'm not up on all the spurious GOP Biden "scandals"


ml1 said:

DaveSchmidt said:

The metaphorical cookie jar, in which a cartoon hand is caught:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/16/politics/house-gop-memo-biden-family/index.html

I guess I'm not up on all the spurious GOP Biden "scandals"

You don't have the MAGA secret decoder ring.


Were these the cookies Biden was stealing? I prefer the almond cookies from Hong Kong, I buy them at Kam Man Asian market in East Hanover. 


nohero said:

You don't have the MAGA secret decoder ring.

seriously.

I often have no idea what those cartoons are referring to.


I'm assuming that any outrageously ageist cartoons mtierney might happen to post are self portraits.

Kind of giving her the benefit of the doubt, cause that's just the way I roll.

cheese


More information on raccoon dogs…and more on the virus….

https://link.nationalreview.com/click/30893607.518298

You may recall that “a significant portion, although not all, of the first Covid cases could be traced back to the Huanan Seafood Market — 27 of 41 patients, according to a key early assessment published in the medical journal The Lancet. A later, larger study of the first 99 people diagnosed with COVID found that only 49 could be traced back to the Huanan Seafood Market.”

The Worobey contention is that individuals who were not linked to the market in those studies were in fact linked to the market, it’s just that neither the patients nor the researchers realized it at the time:

One of the key findings of our study is that “unlinked’ early COVID-19 patients, i.e., those who did not work at the market, did not know someone who did, and had not recently visited the market, resided significantly closer to the market than patients with a direct link to it. The observation that a substantial proportion of early cases had no known epidemiological link had previously been used as an argument against the Huanan market being the epicenter of the pandemic. However, this group of cases resided significantly closer to the market than those who worked there, indicating that they had been exposed to the virus at or near the Huanan market.

“Worobey’s study noted that the cases with no evidence of a direct link to the Huanan Seafood Market resided a median distance of four kilometers (2.48 miles) away, with some more than 15 kilometers away. If you redefine “linked to the market” to mean living within 15 kilometers or nine miles of the market, then it becomes much easier to contend that all of the early patients were “linked to the market. “

“You probably noticed that the November 2021 New York Times front-page story did not end the debate about whether the virus emerged from the market or from a lab leak. This Atlantic article isn’t likely to end the debate, either.

“Matt Ridley, co-author of Viral: The Search for the Origin of Covid-19, sees a recurring pattern in the often-breathless coverage of Andersen, Holmes, and Worobey:

The episode reinforces a bizarre trend in which a small group of western virologists with ready access to the media, who are desperate not to concede that the pandemic might have begun in a virology laboratory, are far more certain that the pandemic began in animals in that market than [George Gao, the head of the Centers for Disease Control in Beijing] or the Chinese authorities now are.


mtierney said:

“Worobey’s study noted that the cases with no evidence of a direct link to the Huanan Seafood Market resided a median distance of four kilometers (2.48 miles) away, with some more than 15 kilometers away. If you redefine “linked to the market” to mean living within 15 kilometers or nine miles of the market, then it becomes much easier to contend that all of the early patients were “linked to the market. “

But Alex Washburne tweeted that “No evidence of higher incidence in animal traders” was a notable coincidence in favor of a lab leak theory. Who’s going to decide for me which information to give more weight to?


mtierney said:


“Matt Ridley, co-author of Viral: The Search for the Origin of Covid-19, sees a recurring pattern in the often-breathless coverage of Andersen, Holmes, and Worobey:

The episode reinforces a bizarre trend in which a small group of western virologists with ready access to the media, who are desperate not to concede that the pandemic might have begun in a virology laboratory, are far more certain that the pandemic began in animals in that market than [George Gao, the head of the Centers for Disease Control in Beijing] or the Chinese authorities now are.

So what you're saying is that people who think the lab leak theory is more likely are taking China's word for it, because they love and trust communists?


PVW said:

So what you're saying is that people who think the lab leak theory is more likely are taking China's word for it, because they love and trust communists?

She's not saying anything.  It's an article from the National Review that she may or may not have read.  You can tell from the stench.


She’s presently trying to figure out how to move all her silly cartoons over to her new iPad… give her some time.


As is my wont, I was  browsing other news sources this morning — I am always interested in another slant as to what’s happening in the Rose Garden, never fearing  that I might catch a liberal bug — and found this….

https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2023/0321/US-in-Iraq-What-remains-20-years-after-the-invasion


mtierney said:

I was  browsing other news sources this morning 

I am so happy to hear that.  Good for you!


mtierney said:

As is my wont, I was  browsing other news sources this morning — I am always interested in another slant as to what’s happening in the Rose Garden, never fearing  that I might catch a liberal bug — and found this….

https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2023/0321/US-in-Iraq-What-remains-20-years-after-the-invasion

What did you learn from this article?


that question should be asked of the folks we vote — and voted for. What is that line about “a hill of beans?” 


mtierney said:

that question should be asked of the folks we vote — and voted for. What is that line about “a hill of beans?” 

They didn’t post that article here, you did. I’m sure there’s a reason why you did it, so what did YOU learn from it that compelled YOU to post it here?


Hey Ridski, I forgot it was your birthday earlier this week! I hope you’re having a great week! question question question


https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/03/its-not-hard-to-define-wokeness-if-youre-honest/

Do not comment on the above link before reading it. Read it in the privacy of your own home. I won’t tell.

Here is just a peek:

“Wokeness Fears Debate”

“The controversy itself should tell us a few things. First, it is a distinct change of tune. As Abe Greenwald at Commentary details, the term “woke” was embraced for years by the political Left before conservatives examined it. Greenwald quotes a 2020 article by Aja Romano at Vox: “‘Woke’ has evolved into a single-word summation of leftist political ideology, centered on social justice politics and critical race theory. This framing of ‘woke’ is bipartisan: It’s used as a shorthand for political progressiveness by the left, and as a denigration of leftist culture by the right.”

“Second, the effort to un-define the term without suggesting a replacement aims at stifling debate rather than clarifying it. As I wrote back in 2021:

To name a thing is to give it form and definition. Our brains are wired for language. . . .Words are the clothing that ideas wear in public. If you disable the words we use to distinguish ideas, you make it harder for people to tell them apart. The result of this is that people lose the ability to say, “Those guys have ideas that are not like my ideas.” . . . Critics of using the terms such as “woke” and “critical race theory” never offer a more precise terminology for the ideology these terms describe, because their goal is not clarity but camouflage.

“Anti-woke socialist writer Freddie deBoer put it more pungently: “Please Just F***ing Tell Me What Term I Am Allowed to Use for the Sweeping Social and Political Changes You Demand.”



You call people “woke” just because they are awake to your bullsiht? How can you call yourself an American when you technically are supporting Putin instead of Biden? I’ll tell you why you’re like that…. Because you’re all a pack of racist degenerates who would love to employ Putin’s barbaric behavior right here in America to make it the “once great God’s country”. The land you bastards stole and slaughtered other human beings to fulfill your god’s promise? You conservatives are now the communist bastards you hated 50 years ago. 


mtierney said:

“Wokeness Fears Debate”

Says the woman who posts links but refuses to engage in any sort of debate.

Someone here is afraid of debate but its not the "woke".


Mtierney, if you are going to post nonsense like that you have to remember to post your trolling trigger warning first.

; )


GoSlugs said:

Mtierney, if you are going to post nonsense like that you have to remember to post your trolling trigger warning first.

; )

Worked for me.

mtierney said:

Do not comment on the above link before reading it.



Nobody in MSO care?

National Review

By THE EDITORS

March 27, 2023 12:29 PM

Last week, Republicans in Congress passed the Parents Bill of Rights, 213–208. Critics will dismiss it as a messaging bill, but the message it sends about Democrats’ priorities is unsettling in the extreme.

Consider: The bill requires schools in receipt of federal funding to publish their curricula and to provide parents with a list of books and materials accessible at the school library. It also contains provisions that require schools to notify parents of any planned elimination of gifted-and-talented programs, to alert parents to any violent activity that took place at school, to provide parents a forum to speak at school-board meetings, and to offer two in-person meetings between parents and teachers in each school year. It requires parental consent for any medical exams or mental-health and substance-use screenings. Crucially, it establishes for parents “the right to know if a school employee or contractor acts to . . . change a minor child’s gender markers, pronouns, or preferred name; or . . . allow a child to change the child’s sex-based accommodations, including locker rooms or bathrooms.”

As you can guess, each one of these provisions relates to the rash of controversies swirling around public schools in the news the past few years, including the introduction of critical race theory and sexually explicit material for young readers and the treacherous subterfuge of school districts’ making major psychological-health decisions for students while deliberately keeping parents in the dark.

There is legitimate debate about whether the federal government ought to assert itself this way upon locally controlled school districts. But that was not the substance of objections from Democrats.

Progressives tended toward hysterical fictions. “Extreme MAGA Republicans don’t want the children of America to learn about the Holocaust,” alleged Hakeem Jeffries, absent any evidence.

Or they outright took the side of the state usurping the proper role of parents. “This Republican bill is asking the government to force the outing of LGBT people before they are ready,” Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said on the House floor. “When we talk about progressive values, I can say what my progressive value is, and that is freedom over fascism.”

Here we must reassert a truth so primordial it predates conservatism as a political philosophy: Parents are the primary educators of their children. Taxes are raised (or fees collected) and schools are established only to assist them in this task, not to take it over. Civilized nations deprive parents of this role or limit it only when there is established criminal neglect.

Democrats, by their universal opposition to this bill in the House, in the Senate, and from the White House, are the ones sending a message. They are the party that wants to treat normal parental oversight and curiosity as a conspiracy against the state, as presumptively seditious, and as dangerous for children. It is the most noxious Marxist conviction that the American Left cannot shake: that normal family life itself ideologically deforms children, and that only the strong checking and supervisory role of the state can save them from the baleful influence of Mommy and Daddy.

Luckily, even most parents who think of themselves as progressives reject the Democrats’ view. Every Republican candidate should loudly and joyfully campaign against this radicalism


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